So good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to
our winter speaker series at the Center for
European and Russian Studies at UCLA. And also,
happy Valentine's Day! I'm Laurie Kain Hart,
Faculty Director of the Center and professor
of anthropology and global studies.
So thanks to our audience for joining us
today and to our wonderful speaker and
respondent whom I will introduce in a moment.
As is our custom here at UCLA, I want to
acknowledge that we are here on the unceded
territory of the Gabrielino/Tongva peoples
who are the traditional land care takers of the
Los Angeles Basin and South Channel Islands.
As a land grant institution occupying
this ground, we pay our respects to the
ancestors, elders and all relatives and
relations past, present and emerging.
I'd also like to thank our Center's
Executive Director Liana Grancea,
and Outreach Director Lenka Unge, for
their contributions to today's event.
We at the Center are especially interested
in understanding the global, transnational
and of course, imperial and colonial past and
present of Europe's global context and impact.
Today's lecture on the evolution of 20th
century Italian imperialism in Ethiopia,
in the context of both liberal and fascist
governments, speaks directly to that mission
and we're grateful to professor Turtur
for sharing her research with us.
So let me introduce her. Dr. Noelle Turtur is
Eugen and Jacqueline Weber Postdoctoral Scholar
in European History at UCLA. Her research
focuses on the relationship between migration,
business and imperial power. Her manuscript
“Making Fascist Empire Work: Italian Enterprises,
Labor, and Organized Community in Occupied
Ethiopia, 1896 to 1943” analyzes the role
of Italian enterprises in the Italian
colonial project in the Horn of Africa.
She received her doctorate in history
from Columbia University in 2022.
So we are also grateful to have with us
respondent, Professor Hollian Wint. Professor
Wint is assistant professor in the Department of
History at UCLA. Her work spans the Indian Ocean
from East Africa to the Indian subcontinent.
Her first book project took her to archives
in Zanzibar and mainland Tanzania, Gujarat and
Bombay, as well as London and Washington, DC.
She teaches on Africa and the Indian Ocean,
the history and anthropology of money and debt,
global history and the history of Islam.
In both her teaching and research,
she explores the intersection of gender,
political economy and material culture,
as well as innovative historical methods.
So my thanks to both of you for being here.
A note on logistics. Audience members
can put their questions into the chat box,
not the Q&A, but the chat box at the bottom of the
screen at any time during the talk or discussion.
And we'll ask the speakers to respond to
as many of them as possible after the talk.
So with that, I will turn the podium over to
our speaker for The Unscrupulous Prospector,
the Ethiopian Elite and Italy's Frustrated
Imperialists: Alberto Prasso, and the Evolution
of Italian Colonial Strategy in Ethiopia
from 1905 to 1935. Thanks, professor Turtur.
Thank you, everyone, for
being here today.
At 22 years old, Alberto Prasso, like so
many Italians, set off to seek his fortune
first in America. His life up until then had been
nothing extraordinary. We know that he was
born in May 1871 in Mongardino
d'Asti, a Piemontese hill town of about
and Prasso obtained a sixth-grade education.
He left from La Harve and arrived at Ellis Island
in December 1892, en route to join some relatives
in Santa Cruz, California. Although Prasso arrived
a few decades late for the California Gold Rush,
there is no doubt that prospecting for gold became
Prasso's lifelong obsession. After California,
he went to Alberta and then to Alaska. In 1898, he
was prospecting in the Transvaal in South Africa,
and three years later he traveled up to Rhodesia,
to Katanga in King Leopold's Congo Free State.
A few years later, he arrived in Addis
Ababa, taking the caravan from Djibouti,
and he traveled along with an British officer
who introduced the feverish prospector to the
Ethiopian imperial court. According to Prasso's
shine to the Italian adventurer. He appointed Ras
Wolde Giyorgis, the governor of Kaffa and general
in Menelik's southwestern campaigns, and Ras
Tasemma Nadaw, the Amhara governor of Iluu Abbaboor,
born to be his baldaraboch, or his
patrons and intermediaries with the court.
Between 1903 and 1905, Prasso accompanied
Ras Wolde Giyorgis to Kaffa and throughout the newly
conquered western regions of Ethiopia on a mission
to lay down the telegraph and telephone line
linking these regions to Addis
Ababa. Over the next few years,
Prasso took several trips to western Ethiopia
to identify potential mineral deposits. While
the Italian Legation in Addis would have certainly
noted the arrival of another Italian in the city,
by then, the population had dwindled substantially
to just a few dozen, following the release of
most Italian prisoners of war taken at Adowa, the
Italian Consul Count Colli di Felizzano considered
him just another speculator who, to paraphrase,
was neither particularly cultured nor bright.
Yet Colli sat up with attention when
Prasso walked into his office in March
had been awarded by Emperor Menelik.
The concession, according to Colli's
letters to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
granted Prasso the right to search for
precious metals in southwestern Ethiopia.
The area is marked in red on the map, which
Colli drew for the Ministry's reference. The
concession, known as the Baro Concession, was later
estimated to cover over 70,000 square kilometers.
Colli doubted that Prasso would be able to turn
that concession into a profitable enterprise.
Likely, he even doubted Prasso would survive
his prospections. The low-lying, water-logged
regions were rife with tsetse flies and
malaria, making the region difficult
to traverse and inhospitable to both humans
and pack animals. Further process would have
to ingratiate himself to local authorities and
people as Menelik's concession made clear that
the court would not intervene on Prasso's behalf.
Menelik's control over the region at this
period and time was limited at best. There was
frequent conflict between the lowlander Anuyaa,
the Oromo living in the high plateau,
some of whom were strategically allied
with Menelik's government for periods and
the Amhara military governors appointed to
rule rebellious people and exact tribute
locally to support their imperial armies.
Even if Prasso survived his prospections, the
agreement granted him a mere three years to
locate any precious metals and demonstrate that he
could exploit them. A virtually impossible task.
Nevertheless, the concession
caught Colli's interest for its
sheer size and strategic position.
Lying along the contested border with
the newly proclaimed Anglo-Egyptian Sudan and
south of Lake Tana, Europeans' geographical
knowledge of the region remained scant.
The British military and the Italian
Geographical Society had both sent missions to
study and map the region and its many rivers,
including the Baro and the Birbir, that fed Lake
Tana, which was the source of the Blue Nile.
Moreover, these rivers produced new trade
routes. The Baro river known as the Sobat
in Sudan was navigable during the rains, and
as a result, goods in southwestern Ethiopia
could now travel to Khartoum and then
up the Nile to the Mediterranean rather
than overland across Ethiopia into the Red Sea.
The importance of these rivers to the Nile and
this region's potential wealth in minerals,
as well as ivory, coffee, rubber and
people made them particularly interesting
to Emperor Menelik, as well as the British,
who would do anything to ensure the steady
flow of the Nile waters. The Italians and French,
by contrast, understood that Britain's laser focus
on the Nile waters offered up opportunities to
carve out concessions for themselves in Ethiopia.
In 1906, the three European powers made a treaty
dividing Ethiopia into zones of influence. The
British surrounding Lake Tana. You can see...
British surrounding Lake Tana, which would be
this region here. The French controlling the
rail line from Djibouti to Addis Ababa and the
Italians were given kind of vague promises about
Western Ethiopia. Prasso and this concession
were thus of great interest to the ministry.
Prasso, for one, for his knowledge of the region, its
resources, politics and people in its concession
as a concrete example of Italy's economic
and political interest in its so-called
zone of influence. In his missive
to Rome, Colli warned his superiors that it would
"be a shame for the concession to fall into
foreign hands." However unlikely, if
Prasso ever managed to discover mineral riches
in the area and then succeeded in obtaining a
permanent concession to mine them, he would
have immense tract of territory at his disposal.
True, the concession was granted to Prasso as
a private citizen and not as a representative
of Italy, but to Consul Colli that was tantamount
to obtaining a small slice of Ethiopia for
la grande patria just a decade after Italy's
failed attempt to occupy and colonize Ethiopia.
Over the next 30 years, the Italian Foreign
Ministry and its representatives in Addis
hungrily eyed Prasso's concession
and the companies he formed from it.
Colli deemed Prasso to be an unscrupulous and
single-minded operator whose only goal was to
exploit his concession. In other words, the man
could not be trusted to further Italian imperial
interests. Time and time again, the ministry
attempted to secure Prasso's concession in Italian
hands by trying to arrange for Italian investors
to buy a controlling share of Prasso's company.
With each disappointment, their appetite
only grew. Studying Alberto Prasso and his
strategically located concession from 1905
to 1935, I trace the evolution of Italian colonial
strategy in Ethiopia, from the immediate wake
of the Italian defeat at Adowa in 1896,
to the eve of the Italian invasion in 1935. Within
these years, I identify three phases in Italian
imperial strategy. The first I called emigrant
imperialism, and dated roughly from 1896 to 1927.
The second I referred to as economic
penetration. And this was the language
used precisely by the regime itself, and it dated
from around 1927 to 1934. And the third phase,
of course, was the violent occupation.
And this began more or less in 1934 and 1935.
Drawing on historian Mark Choate's concept of
emigrant empire, I argue that emigrant imperialism
relied upon small Italian entrepreneurs and
adventurers like Prasso using their own
resources, as well as local contacts and knowledge
to develop enterprises in parts of the world
like Ethiopia, Tunisia, Brazil and Argentina.
From the perspective of the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs, supporting such enterprises required
little attention and public resources. At worst,
their legal troubles and various demands were
headaches for the Italian legation. At best,
an enterprise like Prasso's could bring an immense
tract of territory under Italian influence and
produce scarce gold for Italian state coffers.
However, emigrant imperialists were unreliable.
The government always doubted if their loyalties
lay with the Madrepatria or if these men were
more attached to their countries of settlement,
or in Prasso's case attached to Ethiopia,
or if they were only allied with their own kin
and themselves. While emigrant imperialism was
characterized by the Italian government aiding
Italian entrepreneurs, emigrant entrepreneurs,
and their varied and uncoordinated
industries in hopes that these resulting
enterprises might benefit the metropole,
economic penetration was state-sponsored
coordinated investment in distinct regions.
Economic penetration differed from emigrant
imperialism on two major points. First, the
fascist regime sought to aggressively draw in
the capital and interests of Italian capitalist
classes. These people and their capital,
according to the regime's ideology, would provide
the spiritual as well as economic and political
basis for colonization. Second, the
regime sought to strategically and intentionally
target specific regions for exclusive
Italian economic and political influence.
Ultimately, economic penetration was
intended to lay the groundwork for
imperial expansion broadly defined.
Thus many commercial enterprises connected to
this policy were involved in infrastructure
projects such as roads and port facilities, and
these companies engaged in espionage and built
relationships with local elites in order to erode
the central power of the Ethiopian imperial court.
Finally, the Italian imperialists frustrated with
their efforts, resorted to a violent invasion and
direct occupation. Studying Italian colonial
strategy in Ethiopia from the post-Adowa period
to the eve of the fascist invasion also reveals
certain continuities. First, Italian colonial
strategy in the Horn of Africa was largely
carried out by the same group of nationalists and
experts affiliated with the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs and the Italian Geographical Society.
These men were the experts on both the
region, in both academic
and diplomatic circles. For the most part, they
were committed nationalists and imperialists who
had no qualms of accommodating themselves
within the fascist regime and pursuing the
same policies more vigorously. Second, Italian
colonial strategy in all three phases relied
upon the labor, capital, and expertise of African
Italians and members of the Ottoman diaspora.
Italian imperialists in the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs believed that Italian enterprises in
Ethiopia, like Prasso's, could be financed
through a combination of state and private
capital and ultimately used to secure
Italian interests and engage the Italian
population in colonial projects. The rest of
my book manuscript reveals these same kinds
of common combinations persisted throughout the
Italian occupation of Ethiopia from 1936 to 1941.
Third, while illustrating the Ministry of
Foreign Affairs' persistent interests in Ethiopia
and the escalating force they are willing to use
to achieve their aims, I do not understand this as
evidence of the regime's long-standing intention
to invade and occupy Ethiopia. Rather, I argue
that the Italian regime developed many strategies
to destabilize and exploit Ethiopia and its people.
They understood a military occupation as one
among many of these strategies. Thus, as dead as
this debate may be in Italian history, I think
it is worth repeating, especially in the imperial
context, and given current circumstances that
the fascist regime and its strategy in Ethiopia
did not represent a break with the policies
pursued by the liberal Italian state. Rather,
the fascist regime built on these strategies
and was willing to carry them out with greater
force and intention than its predecessor.
I am thus emphasizing the Italianness of
this imperial strategy as opposed
to its fascist particularities. So
how did an Italian from Mongardino d'Asti
obtain an extensive concession in western
Ethiopia just a few years after the Italians'
failed invasion? I argue that Alberto Prasso
obtained its concession by the mere luck of being
in the right place at the right time. But he was
able to maintain his concession over many years
by effectively tacking between his identities
and connections with Ethiopia and Italy.
He was, in my opinion, the quintessential
emigrant imperialist. Prasso spent his first
years in Ethiopia conducting mineralogical
surveys in the southwest, which Menelik was
in this time attempting to incorporate into
his empire through both brute force and strategic
alliances. As a surveyor, Prasso frequently sent
news and accounts of the people
he met, the resources he saw,
and the places he traveled to Ras Tasemma,
the Amhara governor of Iluu Abbaboor,
and Ras Wolde Giyorgis, the governor of Kaffa.
He even sent news to court. This information
likely helped each of these men coordinate and
conduct raids to extract tribute and punish
local people who resisted their authority. Thus,
from his first years in Ethiopia, Prasso likely
served as an agent of the Ethiopian Imperial
bureaucracy and its rule in southwestern Ethiopia.
Similarly, I understand Menelik's decision to grant
Prasso a concession, another strategy for
extending the Ethiopian imperial rule into
southwestern Ethiopia. Menelik granted numerous
concessions, including to foreigners in this
region in these years. Granting a concession
gave substance to the Empire's territorial
claims and allowed the court to collect new
tax revenue without necessarily forcing the
emperor to dedicate soldiers or to wage war.
Concessionaires alone would be responsible for
negotiating with people locally and rendering
their enterprises profitable. It cost
the emperor little to grant a concession,
but if the concessionaire were
successful, the emperor could
rely on a secure flow of tax revenue from
a region formerly outside of his control.
While luck may have secured
Prasso's concession initially, it was
his skill as an emigrant imperialist that
allowed him to keep it for the next 30 years.
Like many Italian emigrants, Prasso cultivated
ties with key people in his country of settlement,
namely the emerging Ethiopian imperial
bureaucracy, while maintaining his identity and
status as an Italian and a European. His ability
to engage with all three groups allowed Prasso
not only to keep his concession in the midst
of immense political turmoil within Ethiopia,
but also to manipulate a succession of financiers, who
were eager to obtain a share of Ethiopia's riches,
but ultimately ignorant of the country.
The first person who tried to remove the
concession from Prasso's hands was the Italian
Consul in Addis, Colli. Count Colli repeatedly
tried to interest reliable, patriotic Italian
investors in becoming majority shareholders in the
company, which Prasso formed to finance a survey
missions and eventually exploit the concession.
As majority shareholders, the
company in this concession
would remain in Prasso's hands in name only.
But Colli's aspirations were quickly dashed.
Italians were reticent to invest in imperial
ventures. Indeed, most Italians did not trust the
banks, let alone the stock market, and preferred
to invest in family businesses or real estate.
To address this problem, the Ministry of
Foreign Affairs and Italian imperialist
developed various investment vehicles
such as the Società Coloniale Italiana,
which was founded in 1907. Backed primarily
by capital from the Ministry of Finance,
these companies were created to invest in
concessions in Ethiopia and allow Italians
to expand their commercial and political
influence relative to the British and French.
Colli's attempts to interest these
groups, however, were to no avail. No
matter how reassured they might have been
by government offices, first and foremost,
they aimed to profit for their shareholders. Each
time, these enterprises declined for two reasons.
First, they could not invest the capital that
Prasso demanded. And second, they deemed the
investment too risky. They were unsure of the
potential mineral resources in the region,
and they were not convinced that Prasso could
secure a permanent contract. In the Ministry of
Finance and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
ultimately did not have the leverage or if they
did, the willingness to use it to force these
companies to invest and process enterprise.
Unable to attract Italian investors, Colli
reluctantly realized that the legation had
little choice but to support Prasso in
his many legal battles with successive
financiers. Between 1907 and 1921, Prasso's
financiers included a Greek banker based in
Alexandria named George Zarvudachi, the Italian
Panelli brothers, likewise based in Alexandria,
who were suspected of smuggling arms and
other things in southwestern Ethiopia,
and a group of British investors that included
Miles Backhouse, the former governor of the
Bank of Abyssinia, and John Ramsden, one
of the largest plantation owners in the
Straits Settlement, now known as Penang, and in
British East Africa. Each of these partnerships
quickly soured. Prasso financiers accused them of
spending money irresponsibly, of overselling the
concessions potential and of never using the money
invested to actually begin mining operations.
By all accounts, Prasso's included, he
accepted this money but never began mining,
let alone making the promised fixed capital
investments needed to create an efficient,
modern mining operation. Each in their turn sued
Prasso for failing to abide by their agreements.
In these legal battles, Prasso used his
knowledge of Ethiopian law and his
connections in Addis to secure favorable outcomes.
But he did not rely on his Ethiopian allies alone.
He also kept the Italian legation duly informed
about his legal battles, which in turn defended
Prasso against his foreign investors as a means
of extending Italian influence. For example,
when Prasso's first business partners, the Greek
banker and the Italian smugglers, filed a lawsuit
against him in the Mixed Tribunal in
Alexandria, Italy's local diplomatic
representatives were alerted to the case
by friend Ferdinando Martini, an important
Italian statesman, diplomat in the Horn, and the
former governor of the Italian colony of Eritrea.
Afraid that the concession might
"fall into foreign hands,"
Martini encouraged the Italian authorities to,
and I paraphrase here, interest themselves in
the case, such that the concession, once freed
from pending legal matters, could be placed in
the hands of Italian capitalists. While there
is no proof that this political intervention
influenced the outcome of Prasso's lawsuits
in Alexandria, it is worth noting that in
both cases, the court sided with Prasso.
But the tribunal's decision once handed
down was moot. The Ethiopian court had, in the
intervening years, nullified Prasso's concession on
the grounds that no work had been undertaken. With
the contract nullified, Prasso requested a new
concession covering the same area, which was
granted. This maneuver thus freed Prasso of his
legal obligations to give to his financiers, while
also allowing him to develop the same concession.
The episode reveals that Prasso was able to
draw on his connections to the Italian Legation
and the Ethiopian Imperial Court to defend his
interests when challenged by foreign investors.
Perhaps Prasso's emigrant imperialism can best
be exemplified by his own family. In his memoirs,
Prasso recounts being “given” a
woman, who he calls Uoletta Miriam,
although that certainly would had not been the name she
was born with, who had been taken captive
by a subordinate of Ras Wolde Giyorgis in a
raid in the Omo delta in southern Ethiopia.
Ouletta Miriam more or less remained with Prasso for
the remainder of her life, serving as guide,
translator, caretaker and concubine.
She bore him a son, Adolfo, around 1906.
Likely, Prasso saw his son's mixed heritage as
an asset in that, Prasso believed, his cultural
competencies and his heritage entitled him to
an insider status in both Ethiopia and Europe.
Unlike many Italians at the time, Prasso
immediately registered Adolfo as an Italian
citizen. He had also educated
first in Addis Ababa in Alexandria before
sending him to Europe to study in Turin and
then at the Royal School of Mines in London.
Prasso designated Adolfo as his heir, had
him trained as an engineer and appointed
him to direct the mine, as well as
negotiate with European financiers.
Over time, Prasso's ties with the Ethiopian
imperial court appear to have grown stronger, even
after his initial patrons, Ras Tasemma and Ras
Wolde Giyorgis died and southwest Ethiopia became
more closely enmeshed in the Ethiopian empire.
In November 1922, Prasso obtained a second
concession, known as the Birbir Concession.
This concession was much smaller, but much more
wealthy. It included the mineral-rich region of
Jubdo. In his memoirs, he credits Ras Tasemma's
son, Dejjach Makonnen Endelkachew, with securing the
concession on his behalf. At this point, Prasso
must have felt quite secure in his influence.
Dissatisfied that the concession only allowed
him to survey, and not exploit, he enjoined
the Italian minister in Addis, Vivalba, to
raise the matter with Ras Täfäri himself.
Prasso also lobbied the court personally,
and he eventually won his concession with the
right to exploit whatever minerals he found. Thus,
in these years, we see that Prasso
single mindedly sought to secure and
exploit his concessions in Western Ethiopia.
To that end, whenever he needed to make a new
business deal or renew his concession, he used
his knowledge of Ethiopia, its languages,
customs and law, and his connections with certain
members of the elite to his advantage. Likewise,
Prasso was also aware of the strategic location
of his concession and its importance to his
native Italy. He thus counted on the Italian
authorities to repeatedly intervene on his behalf.
As many emigrant imperialists before him,
Prasso tacked between his identity within
Ethiopia and within Italy to secure
his concessionary rights, which,
if unintentionally, maintained Italy's claim
to the Foreign Ministry in Western Ethiopia.
Fascist regimes seizure of power in 1922 did
not ultimately bring wholesale change to the
Foreign Ministry or the Ministry of Colonies.
The political appointees such as the Minister
and the Undersecretary would change, but the
offices were largely stacked with experts,
such as the ethnologist Alberto Pollera, the orientalist Enrico Cerulli,
and the diplomat Jacopo Gasparini, whose
knowledge and contacts made them irreplaceable.
Moreover, there was little need to replace these
men. They were mostly patriotic nationalists
who shared the fascist regime's ambition to
solidify the nation's independence and power
abroad by building an empire. As the fascist
and the established diplomatic corps
accommodated one another in Rome, they
largely pursued an intensified version
of the Liberal government's policy, using the same
companies such as the Società Coloniale Italiana.
Mussolini relied on nationalists such as Luigi
Federzoni to direct foreign and imperial policy.
As Minister of the Colonies, Federzoni
called on “the courage of private capital” to
undertake “audacious overseas enterprises”.
Federzoni and others believe that Italian
capitalists would provide the economic and
political foundation for the colonization,
as well as a kind of spiritual leadership.
Prasso and his mining concessions received renewed
attention from the ministries after he arranged
for his company to be presented as an investment
opportunity to the Italian Geographical Society,
Italy's most important imperial lobby presided
over by Federzoni in early 1924. The concessions
were made retain their strategic value, while their
mineral value, material value increased as the
Birbir Concession began to produce important
quantities of platinum for the global market.
The concession thus remained valuable to Italy,
but Prasso remained a liability. The ministry
spent the next years trying to make the
Italian electrochemical giant, the firm
Montecatini, the majority shareholder
in Prasso's company. They argued that the
firm had the resources and expertise to
exploit the mineral deposits and secure the
concession rights on behalf of the regime.
Montecatini was Italy's largest copper, pyrite, and
fertilizer producer. In addition to fertilizers,
the company operated hydroelectric
power plants in Italy and Tunisia,
a French protectorate with a large Italian
population. At the same time, Montecatini
as securing an alliance with Mussolini
that would make the firm the primary fertilizer
for the nation during the Battle for Grain,
the regime's campaign for food autarky.
While the regime was working to
aggressively interest Montecatini,
Prasso was busy pursuing other investors.
He dispatched Adolfo to negotiate with Paribas
bank, which frequently collaborated
with the Italians on foreign investments
and charged him with forming a stock company
with French investors to develop the Birbir
Concession. Adolfo was also sent to London to
see if he could interest investors there as well.
Perhaps considering how his prior investors had
withdrawn so quickly, Prasso wanted to form
multiple companies on his concessions, dividing
it into multiple zones with respective rights in
order to have a more conservative, secure footing.
Yet, Prasso responded enthusiastically
when Colli informed him of Montecatini's
intention to invest in Prasso's operations.
He wrote to Colli that he was rushing to Rome
to meet with Montecatini's representatives,
delightfully weighed down by the 12 kilograms
of metal he had mined that year. But news of
Prasso's travels quickly dried up. Apparently, the
Baro and Sobat river river became too shallow
to navigate, effectively stranding
him in Jubdo. Colli and the Italian Legation,
however, assumed Prasso would cancel his
dealings with the French and the British
as they had instructed and make an agreement
with Montecatini. To ensure Prasso's concession
was not canceled, Colli intervened directly with
on Prasso's behalf with Ras Täfäri,
informing him of the work Prasso
had undertaken and the company that
Prasso was about to form.
Prasso, however, had other plans.
He went ahead and formed his French company,
approving it with the Ethiopian Minister of
Mines, all the while keeping the Italian Legation
in the dark by strategically bribing a postal
worker in the Legation's telegraph office. The
whole episode thus is largely reminiscent of
Colli's attempts to interest companies
in Prasso's concession a decade earlier.
Except in this case, Prasso effectively
served to deceive the Italians.
While this time the regime was able to strongarm
a suitable firm into investing, Prasso continued
to operate as an emigrant imperialist, drawing
on his connections and resources in Ethiopia,
as well as the competition between European
powers for economic influence in the region
in order to make the most favorable deal.
And the Italian investors were simply not
offering the best deal. Prasso in addition to
his company with Paribas made agreements with two
British companies and by 1932 was rumored to be
in talks with Consolidated Goldfields, an immense
British mining company with operations in the
Transvaal, Australia, Siberia and the Americas.
So this whole episode marks a turning point for
Italian imperialists, at least with
respect to the relationships to Prasso.
They grew increasingly convinced that the
Ethiopian government was intentionally favoring
the French and the British over
Italian, but Federzoni sought to cool their
heads. He argued that it remained in Italy's
interest to work quietly through companies rather
than create a diplomatic route. Frustrated by the
fact that the Italians could not raise enough
capital to finance concessions like the British,
French, Germans and other imperial powers,
an official at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
likely Count Luigi Orazio Vinci-Gigliucci,
the future minister in Abbis, proposed in
commission to study economic enterprises in
Ethiopia and to systematically present enterprises to
Italian investors. But such a commission would
be able to kind of sift through requests and
identify enterprises worthy of such investment.
And here you can see some of Prasso's mining
operations. Tracing how the Italians obtained
possession of Prasso's concession reveals a
subtle, yet significant transformation in Italian
political strategy. The liberal and early fascist
regime's desultory efforts to encourage private
investment in imperial enterprises, developed
into a muscular action plan that brought together
skilled men from Italy's diplomatic corps in the
financial class and specially designed investment
vehicles, which combine public and private
capital, all backed by the state's course of force.
Referred to by Italian diplomats
themselves as economic penetration,
this policy aimed to use Italian
investment to strategically and
systematically target specific regions and
resources for exclusive Italian influence.
They engaged more Italian capitalists in
undertaking and managing these enterprises.
And finally, economic penetration served to
erode the power of the Ethiopian imperial
state. Many commercial enterprises connected
to this policy aimed to construct and control
key infrastructure such as roads and ports.
They also served as political cover for Italian
agents to sow division between regional
elites and the Ethiopian Imperial Court.
This new imperial strategy and its relationship to
previous strategies is best illustrated by Jacopo
Gasparini, the central architect of the fascist
regime's economic penetration and geopolitical
action in the Horn of Africa. In
his obituary, written by his fascist colleague,
he is described as a man who was "born to
the colonial politics of old Italy" and
was still "attached to some
ideas of the surpassed
tactics of the colonial administration."
As such, Gasparini could articulate
the differences between the fascist Italy's
new colonial strategies and that of its
predecessors. This he summarized up as
"I worked for 20 years having
only weak governments at my back and an Italy
that didn't want any problems. Now we have at
our backs a strong government and a strong Italy.
We all know how to take vigorous political action."
Gasparini thus argued that Italian
colonial strategy under the fascist regime
did not differ from the liberals in terms of its
content, but rather in terms of the resources, the time,
men and money that they were willing to dedicate
to pursuing their ambitions. Under Gasparini's
leadership, the fascist regime's Ministry of
the Colonies and Ministry of Foreign Affairs
developed even more powerful companies such as the
Società Anonima Patto Italo-Etiopico, simply known
as SAPIE. Backed primarily by state capital,
like their predecessors, these companies also
engaged private investors and entrepreneurs from
Italy's dynamic industrial class. In the case of
SAPIE, Gasparini brought in Antonio Marescalchi,
a manufacturer of seaplanes who participated in a
large consortium of manufacturers, banks,
and airlines aimed at making Italy an
international hub for air travel. Together,
Gasparini and Marescalchi represented the new
Italian imperialism, which merged Italy's dynamic
industrial and financial class with its cunning
liberal diplomats and bureaucrats who knew how to
operate with little capital and little spectacle.
Gasparini quickly dispatched Marescalchi to Paris,
where he was to befriend Prasso, who was again in
legal troubles with his French financiers and
convince them to invest with the Italian SAPIE.
Meanwhile in Rome, Count Vinci, soon to become
the Italian Minister in Addis Ababa, sought
to secure funding that SAPIE would need to
buy the majority stake in Prasso's company.
Vinci made two interrelated political and
economic arguments. First, he argued that neither
the British nor the French had abided by the 1906
agreement, which he claimed had assigned Western
Ethiopia to Italy. He argued that the British now
were no longer interested in Lake Tana
alone, but also in all of the Trinity tributaries
feeding into the source of the Blue Nile.
He suggested that Prasso's British partners
were agents of the intelligence services.
Secondly, he argued that Italy needed to secure,
through immense financial extensions and force,
if necessary, concessions like Prasso's in order
to combat Britain and France's domination of
the global economy. In particular, Britain's
privileged place and its access to gold had
produced financial capitalists to a degree
unseen in Italy, which then invested in
concessions like Prasso, which in turn brought
more gold and more platinum to British shores.
Citing the amount of gold acquired in the past
two years by the British and French banks,
Vinci argued that they were insulating their
economies against global turbulence. Writing
just a few weeks before Italy left the
gold standard again in December 1934,
Vinci's arguments about Italy's persistent
structural disadvantages in the global economy,
even in its own zone of influence in remote
Western Ethiopia, must have made Mussolini smart.
State financing to push a private stock company
to purchase a mine in western Ethiopia must
have appealed as an apt solution to the problem
that Vinci presented. Vinci concluded,
"It is necessary to act if we do not want also
this area of our interest to be irremediably
compromised. We can no longer content ourselves
with pieces of paper and the rights that these
pieces of paper give us.
But we must look
to give them substance by
taking action. Like all other powers do,
where they can and as they can, especially the
British." Vinci's reports reveal the degree of
resentment that many Italian officials, be
they nationals, fascists or liberals, felt
towards the British Empire. They argued that
the British Empire size and resources created a
structural inequality amongst the European powers,
especially Italy, and that the British sought to
obscure this under the mantle of individual
rights, free trade and private enterprise.
The thinking was that this inequality allowed
Britain to take more than its fair share of the
globe's resources, including gold and platinum, and that only
an active, dynamic policy of coordinated public
and private investment could
shift the scales in Italy's favor.
Fully persuaded, the Ministry of Finance
authorized increasing SAPIE's financing,
not once, but twice in order to allow
it to secure Prasso's French company.
Ultimately, it was not the British firms that
stood in SAPIE's way, but it was Prasso and
his friends on the board of the French company.
Twice, Marescalchi and Gasparini tried to obtain
a majority share position in Prasso's French firm,
and twice they failed. Only in 1935 did SAPIE manage
to obtain the majority share first, because one of
the British firms created as a subsidiary of the
French company, had decided to end its contract.
And secondly, because Prasso's French investors,
whatever their affection may have been towards
Prasso himself, decided it was safer to go with
the Italian group, seeing the escalation of
conflict along the border between the Italian
colony of Eritrea and Ethiopia. The experience,
however, confirmed the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
long held belief that Prasso, even now in his
sixties, could not be trusted to place national
interests over his single-minded pursuit of gold.
Moreover, Prasso's close ties to the Ethiopian
government made him a threat to the company,
which had been bought at such a high price and to
the Italian invaders. A few months after SAPIE
seized control of his company, Prasso was secretly
arrested and imprisoned for two years. All of
his business correspondence was sent through SAPIE's
representatives in order to hide his arrest and
ensure that Prasso did not manage to
resecure his concession again, say by having
Haile Selassie declare the concession void in
re-awarding the same concession again to Prasso.
As it happened, dozens of times within a year,
the Italian army was pushing to occupy Prasso's
concession using their informants and Jubdo,
who included Prasso's son, to negotiate with
the Ethiopian resistance comprised of the
Western Oromo Confederation and the Ethiopian
Provisional Government in Illu Abbaboor.
Ultimately tracing the evolution of Italian
colonial strategy from the turn of the century to
the occupation of southwestern Ethiopia in late
little. What did change under the fascist was
the Italian government's willingness to dedicate
unprecedented resources and to use coercive
force to substantiate claims to Ethiopia's land,
people, and real or potential resources. In the
immediate wake of Adowa, Italy used emigrant
imperialists or concessionaires like Prasso to
extend its commercial and political influence.
Emigrant imperialists provided
interpersonal connections, local knowledge
and linguistic and cultural competencies which
were invaluable to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
as it attempted to extend Italy's reach into
overseas markets and its political influence.
Yet the imperialists were dissatisfied with
the kind of material and political gains that
could be made using the strategy, especially in
Ethiopia. In diplomatic treaties and negotiations,
they perceived that their interests and
so-called rights were constantly being
subordinated to those of the British and French.
This was matched by the fact that the Italians,
even with the support and active engagement
of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, could
not force a marriage between an Italian
capital and concessions like Prasso's.
In response, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
sought to rewrite Italy's perceived structural
disadvantage through economic penetration of the
Ethiopian market or the targeted investment of
specific regions and industries, backed by immense
state financing, partnered with experts from both
the ministry and private enterprise, as well as
the convert coercive force of the fascist state,
both within Europe and in Ethiopia.
The fascist regime was willing to use
ever more men, money and force
to achieve this end. Thank you.
Thank you so much, Noelle, for that
amazingly interesting and intricate landscape
of imperialism and commercialism in Ethiopia.
And Hollian, let me turn to you for the
commentary at this point. Thank you. Sure. Well,
thank you, Noelle, for that fascinating exploration
of the various stages, strategies and tensions
of Italian Empire in the Horn of Africa.
I'm going to keep my comments somewhat brief
because I'm hoping that we'll have some great
questions. And I'm going to warn everyone that
I'm coming at this as an Africanist rather
than a Europeanist. So I'm sure that some
of the questions that I'm going to pose
are going to be somewhat different from
some of the Europeans' in the room.
I'll start with one of the things that I
thought was most compelling about the paper,
which was actually the methodology. And so
I think this is a really excellent example
of how biography can produce micro histories of
global dynamics. And so through this kind
of rather juicy story of Alberto Prasso, I think
it's actually more juicy in the written version,
the chapter that I've read. But through
this story, you are able to trace
both the financial networks and the often very
intimate politics that formed what you're calling
emigrant imperialism. So that's a new concept
to me, this idea of emigrant imperialism.
And I think it would be fruitful for us
to unpack that a little bit further in our
discussion today. And so in particular, when I
was reading your paper and in listening to the
presentation today, I found myself comparing
the dynamics described to imperial contexts
that I'm perhaps a bit more familiar with.
So I'm thinking here of work on various company
states in South and Southeast Asia, and the
sort of Creole societies that we've got in
Batavia, for example. But also more recent work
on international investments and European family
firms this use of the term family firms, in
intersecting Atlantic and Indian Ocean trades,
including the financing of the
Atlantic and Indian Ocean slave trades.
And also, to a certain extent, these new
histories of capitalism, a new histories
of infrastructure and extractive economies
in Africa. And so I guess my first kind of
overarching comment or question really is about the
utility and necessity of thinking across empires.
So I think this is a particularly pertinent
question for the Horn of Africa. As you show,
this was a site of intense imperial competition.
So this is really a key space from which we
might be able to counter or at least nuance the
British-French bias of much of the scholarship
on European colonialism in Africa. And so
I'd like you to say, I'd like to invite you
to say a little bit more about the position
of Italian Empire in that historiography,
and also to open up a broader discussion
of the character of continuity between
liberal and fascist empire that you're drawing.
And I've noticed in the beginning of your talk, you
made a point that this was a sort of,
these were Italian strategies, you're
really quite specifically talking about Italian
Empire. But I do see comparisons across that. So
I'd like to ask you to sort of say a bit more about
how you are situating Italian Empire more broadly.
I also thought it is very interesting that
towards the end, you're really kind
of emphasizing the particular limits to Italian
capital that maybe the British did not experience
in the region. So that comparison, I think,
is very useful in thinking across empires in a
connected way as well as in a comparative one.
But of course, the whole was not just the site
of European empire, of competing European empires.
Perhaps in some ways the most important player in
Prasso's story was the Ethiopian Empire. And you
also allude to the Ottomans in the region, the
long history of the Ottomans in the region. So
I'd love to hear a little bit more about that.
So, you know, we've been discussing this recently,
the sort of Ethiopian exceptionalism, right?
The idea of the Ethiopian Empire
and also the sort of infrastructures that
it put into place in the region are
really at the heart of this, still
I would say, somewhat pervasive idea of Ethiopian
exceptionalism in the regional scholarship.
So it's obviously been long celebrated as a rare
African holdout against European imperialism.
But this more recent scholarship has
also investigated Menelik and his successors
as their state, as an agent of colonialism
itself, right? As a form of colonialism that
is in some ways comparable to the European
empires that are competing in the region.
And my understanding
of this is, this is particularly
a scholarship that is concerned with
Western Ethiopia, Southwest Ethiopia in
terms of the region of expansion, but also
a region of kind of continuing tributary
relationships with existing states
and local elites in the area.
And so I was also interested in, you suggested,
you made a comment about the relationships that
the Italians were trying to establish
with these local elites in Western Ethiopia.
And so I think that would be something that would
be interesting to hear more about. And also,
I would like to invite you to kind of explain a
little bit more about how you're intervening on
complementing these histories of African empire
or non-European empire in the region.
So I think there are two themes that really
stand out in your paper that help us to think
about empire in useful ways. The first is
what Fred Cooper et al.
have termed "the tensions of empire". And, you know,
when I was writing this before, I was thinking
that the Alberto Prasso's story really draws our
attention to these tensions between the incessant
mobility of capital and the imperatives of
territorial control. But there's also a sort of,
you know, that quote that you had on pieces
of paper really got me thinking about also the
kind of tensions one might have between kind
of speculative capital and colonial capital.
And so kind of these, I mean Prasso, he's
such a interesting character. He's quite a
naughty historical character in many ways. And
he's sort of in tension with sort of conservative
capitalists in the metropole as well.
So there's several kind of tensions that I think
his story brings out. The second is this question of
intermediaries, which is a topic that's
received quite a lot of attention in studies of
indirect rule in Africa, or I think you allude
to this idea of informal empire and this
resurgence of interest in the informal empire.
And obviously, Alberto Prasso, he relied very heavily
on various kinds of African and possibly even
Ottoman intermediaries. And it was
these connections with patrons,
rulers and enslaved Ethiopians, and the woman
that he had a child with was very interesting
to me. Obviously, these various kinds of
relationships are really at the heart of
his tense relationship with the Italian state.
But I also thought it was very interesting
to kind of turn that question of intermediaries on
its head somewhat and think about how if we unpack
the imperial strategies of the Ethiopian state
in perhaps a sort of a longer historical view,
we can maybe think about how Prasso was also
acting as an intermediary for the Ethiopian
Empire and that is maybe a way into kind
of thinking about the nature of the Ethiopian
state and the ways in which it is interacting
with other imperial projects in this moment.
So that kind of returns me to method. I think, I
mean, you've excavated a really impressive array
of sources to build this picture of Alberto
Prasso's life. And I do think that there is,
I'm sure there's something to be said about
what sources are available for writing this
history from a different perspective,
maybe more of an Ethiopian perspective.
And I know this is not necessarily what you are
most concerned about, but it is something that
I'm interested in. And so one of the things that
I guess I could, I want to ask you finally is to
what extent can we maybe use a micro history
of Prasso's life as a lens through which we
can actually foreground more consistently the
actions and opinions and conceptual frameworks
of the Ethiopian actors, with
which he is interacting. I am thinking there
in terms of, there is some, at least in your, in
what I've read, reference to his relationship to
Ethiopian laborers, but also I got a sense that
maybe he's also working with Ethiopian traders as
well. And so just sort of trying to use
this micro history in a way that gets at
these varied actors in a different way.
I'll leave it at that. Shall I respond?
Thank you so much, Hollian. I want to discuss
all of this more with you and have some book
recommendations I'll ask for. But I think the
best place to begin is kind of with more of a
background on Ethiopia itself, which I kind of
cut from this talk in part because of length.
But Ethiopia and I think perhaps the most
important historiographical source I was working
from, as I was writing this case study,
is actually [. . .] PhD dissertation
and he writes precisely following the
publishing of Neocolonialism and
British Gentlemanly Capitalism
and Overseas Expansion. And he's looking at
the Gambella concession, which is a British
trading post operated on the Baro River,
but also comes up in his account because he's
actually such a fake figure that because of his
role as this intermediary, as you say, between
the Ethiopian imperial state and this periphery
and his status as a European, which in a sense
gives him access in the way that other Ethiopians
were not given access to European financiers
and political circles. He's kind of continually
brought up. So I also thought it was important
to actually tell his story incomplete rather than
necessarily have him always as this
figure on the background.
So Ethiopia at this point in time, if we go
back in history, you know, the 19th century,
Egypt and the Ottomans are basically expanding
down the Red Sea coast. And when the
Ottomans basically fall back, the Italians come
in and take over these posts. And so this is
really much how the Italians become involved
in East Africa, they see these ports
like, it's just port cities, it's Massawa, it's
Mogadishu, they see them as opportunities and
then they slowly and slowly encroach further
and further and towards Ethiopia.
It's hard to say that was ever even, depending
on who was in power, there was more or a more
explicit and or a less explicit intention for
conquest. 1896 is led by [. . .] and he
has this idea of conquest, but it's very kind of
anomalous within the Italian state, which I think,
you know, the concept of the emigrant empire here
kind of comes in. And I returned to that in a minute.
So when the Italians arrive, when Prasso arrives,
kind of the most important people in Ethiopia
are, not the most important people, but
the people who are kind of creating networks
linking the Horn to wider European markets, and
the Indian Ocean, and wider African markets, are a
number of people who have kind of come with the
Ottomans and are part of the Ottoman diaspora.
So this includes a lot of Greek, Jewish, kind
of Leventine traders, Syrians who end up a kind
of operating strategic posts within the Ethiopian
government and within kind of Ethiopian commercial
society as bankers, as custom house owners,
including in regions like Illubabor.
And so these are the people that Prasso is in a
sense most akin to when he arrives in Ethiopia.
And you can see that actually Prasso's
predecessor and a predecessor concessionaire
is the man who was a Manchester-born
Syrian named Hasid Ydibli,
who is operating basically as its own
personal fiefdom, this region.
And he eventually gets transferred to [. . .]
to manage the tax revenue there. But
it's really a way for the Ethiopian state, which
doesn't quite hold these regions at this point.
As you know, direct occupational control to extract
tax revenue from them. And so this is kind of a
way in which Menelik who understands kind of the
limitations of his forces after 1896, is trying
to hold on to this territory, as the British
are claiming it, as the French are claiming it,
by actually substantiating that
territory through granting concessions.
And if you look at Ethiopian law, kind
of the very act of granting a concession is
a claim to imperial sovereignty because of
the way in which under Ethiopian law, land
is basically all public domain that
is then granted by the sovereign
to be used in more or less in different
indefinite periods to various individuals.
So it's really this act of extending sovereignty.
So Prasso comes in as this intermediary. I do
think he's very alike the Greeks and the Armenians
and these various Ottoman intermediaries. And
that's actually something that I bring up in
my next chapter is how the Italians try to
distance their settler population from these
kinds of intermediaries, because that's very
similar to Italian emigrant imperialism,
what I call emigrant imperialism.
I think it's very helpful to kind of go
back to the oldest history, the old renaissance
history of Italian merchant capitalism. And in that
Italians are migrant populations of a Genovese,
they kind of travel around the world. They
establish merchant houses and customs houses
in various port cities. They're not necessarily
interested in controlling vast amounts of land,
particularly because they just don't have the
resources, but rather in controlling kind of
nodal points and trade that allows them to either
make profits or to exact tax revenue.
So that's really kind of the role that these
immigrant imperialists are playing. They're
establishing businesses, they're placing
themselves as kind of networks that link the
Metropole to various parts of the world. And it's
not necessarily required a lot of state backing,
no state risk involved, but it does generate state
income in that these people send remittances. They
establish companies that are engaged in trading
with Italy and they kind of become important
people locally like Prasso, who if Prasso had been
so inclined, could have advocated for Italian
interests with the Ethiopian Imperial Court. I
actually have no idea whether he did or he didn't,
simply because those archival records
from the Ethiopian perspective are, to my
knowledge, entirely... I think they
exist, but I don't think they're available.
Of course, there's maybe another way I can get
about this, and I'm looking at published memoirs
and papers and things like that to kind of
understand who we interacted with, because he
interacted with incredibly important people.
Ras Tasamma, in the last year of his life as the
regent of Ethiopia after Menelik's death.
So there should be archival evidence
there. I just need to get through it.
So I want to kind of speak to these kind of
broader tensions and maybe I'll just kind of
answer one of your questions and then we'll
see if I can move on to Q&A, if there is any.
I think it's really important to kind of lift the
British and French bias and to also think kind of
across empires and think about these continuities.
And that's kind of one of the exciting things
about studying the Italian empire, is that
precisely because of these capital shortages,
it operates in a very different way. And in a
sense it doesn't confine to our neat geographical
borders. You know, this is the British Empire or
this is the French Empire, and in a sense shows
the certain porousness that might,
in my opinion, reflect a greater
reality of what imperialism was and is.
And so that's why I like to look at capital
and I like to look at businesses and I like to
look at people. And so I think thinking about Italy
and thinking also about Prasso's role in
kind of substantiating and expanding as an
intermediary of the Ethiopian empire really
changes the kind of narrative of British
and French contest over this region as kind of
the headquarters of the Nile and responsible for
feeding all of the Egyptian delta and
important agricultural investments there.
So I'm going to stop there. If there's any
other questions, we can keep going.
If there are other parts of what Hollian has
just offered, I think you could continue to
respond for the moment. Or Hollian, if you have
interventions to make at this point, you as well.
Yeah, the connection kind of cut,
it was a little unstable at one point,
so I didn't hear everything
that Hollian said. Oh, okay.
Particularly when you were talking about
infrastructures and capital. Well, I was just
sort of drawing comparisons between historiographies,
really, in terms there is a kind of a
new burgeoning scholarship of the new history of
capitalism in Africa, which is really interested
in these questions of financial networks and how
these are kind of facilitating really forms of
what we used to call neocolonialism.
And you use the term neocolony at one
point in your paper and I was just interested in it.
It comes from [. . .], who refers to Ethiopia
as the first... the argument of his dissertation is
that Ethiopia is basically the first neocolonial
concession in Africa. In terms of... In terms of
the companies operating in the southwest.
Well, I also think this is a
very interesting question that's
particular to the Horn of Africa, because I'm also
thinking about recent work on Egypt, right?
And the veiled protectorate and the sort of the
central role that finance capital is playing
in these forms of informal empire. And I think
that's what you ended up saying, that
the Italian case really does maybe present a more
realistic view of empire in some ways, right?
As it's speaking to these kind
of complex financial networks
that actually do form empire in
these areas that are not I mean,
yes, territorial colonialism is obviously an
important dynamic on the continent of Africa.
But even in those spaces, you have mining
companies that have some form
of sovereignty and actually provide a continuity
between formal empire and neocolonialism. And
so there is some dynamics that I think
are particularly interesting in the Horn of
Africa and in Ethiopia in particular, that
really have a lot to teach us about
thinking about empire more broadly.
Yeah, as I was preparing I
just reread Philip Stern's The Company-State, and I
thought that was perfect. Another book on the
relationships and contracts, and I think
that was actually a really good... in India.
And so I thought it was a very good
example of how... So Philip Stern's book
makes the argument that the early modern
company is in essence a akin in its forms
and in its rights to a kind of nation in
that it possesses many of the same kind
of qualities and powers as a sovereign power.
And in some sense, you can think in the early
modern world about how companies were, in essence,
rivals to nation states as a way of consolidating
power. And I think if you particularly look
at empires, you can kind of actually see this
playing out far past the early modern world
all the way up until as I've shown, 1930
and perhaps even afterwards. Particularly if
you look at the involvement of various
companies in Ethiopian postwar period
and in the Horn of Africa more broadly.
So I thought that that was a really helpful way of
also thinking about Prasso and it also confines to
the kind of ways in which concessionaires, not so
much Prasso, but usually his predecessor really
exercised power. He had his own personal
army, his predecessor, which he used and
kind of became a big problem, obviously.
And then actually they bring him back,
they bring back this army around the
time Prasso was there to govern.
And he becomes the governor of the
region, the guy who led the army,
who's also not Ethiopian. He's Yemeni, I believe.
He governs the province actually up until 1935.
So there really is this interplay
between capital and companies.
And I think it's also important to think about
companies not just in their liberal formation,
but also how companies were
construed in Africa by Africans,
and that it's not necessarily a, you
know, invention of European liberalism.
Well, I mean, that's where the interesting
comparisons that you're drawing between
someone like Prasso and these Armenians
and Greeks and traders who had... I mean,
they have a much longer history in the region.
I do wonder about this question of the
continuity between liberal and fascist empire.
It's out of my wheelhouse, to be honest.
As you mentioned, that this is
a big debate in Italian
historiography. A dead debate. A dead
debate, sorry, the dead debate. But I do wonder
it's not really a sort of part of this story, but
about really the kind of ideologies of difference
that, you know, have defined
colonialism in other historiographies.
And, you know, one of the things that stands
out about Prasso is, I would call him, being
sort of a Creole actor or, you know,
he lives a rather Creole life, at least.
And I wonder whether there is
with this sort of shift to more
direct investment by the Italian state
in the kind of latter stage that you
identify. Is that accompanied by shifting
ideologies of racial difference?
I think it depends always on the who.
I can say that under Italian law at
the time that Adolfo Prasso was registered as a
citizen and up until the Italian invasion, under
Italian law, Italo-Ethiopian children, just like
Italo-Eritrean children and Italo-Somali children,
were recognized as Italian citizens so
long as their father recognized them.
That didn't mean that it was done that often.
And actually Prasso notes that when he did it,
it wasn't often done. And it doesn't mean that
it did not raise concerns within the Italian
Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Actually,
the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
constantly refers to Adolfo Prasso in kind of
racially derogatory terms in their correspondence,
even though by 19 Adolfo Prasso
winds up marrying a Belgian woman,
and it looks like his father's very
upset about this marriage and they
have a big falling out.
And after this period,
Adolfo becomes the main informant of the Italian
Ministry of Foreign Affairs about the company
and its actions and basically works on their
behalf as a spy also in Western Ethiopia to kind of secure
that Gasparini can take over this
region. And he actually continues with that during
the Italian occupation and invasion of Ethiopia.
He's one of the main informants and he's actually
sent as a diplomat to negotiate the surrender of
Western Ethiopia. So when the Italians invade,
they basically get stopped at 1936 in Addis
Ababa, but kind of in the historiography that's,
you know, they declare the empire and the war
is over. And in Europe, that's kind of it's
all said and done.
Actually, that's
a complete fiction that Mussolini somehow got in
everybody's eyes. He barely occupied the country.
They couldn't even get people to
and from Asmara and Addis Ababa.
Particularly in Western Ethiopia, there's a
provisional government that was established by
Haile Selassie before he left for
Geneva and then back. And there's
the Western Oromo Confederation, which
is led by a Oromo in Western Ethiopia,
who bring a proposal to the League of Nations to
themselves declared a British protectorate so that
they will not be colonized by the Italians.
So Adolfo Prasso is actually sent to negotiate
with both the Western Oromo Confederacy and the
provisional government and to have this
region surrender. And he ends up being killed
by the Black Lions who are also in this region
at the time. And this kind of is one of
the main like massacres that the Italians
like to talk about a lot and memorialized.
And he's only one of two Italo-Africans in the
war who gets awarded a gold, he gets awarded a big
important medal, and he actually gets memorialized
publicly because his face is in the paper and
everything, but that eventually disappears.
But initially, he's kind of seen as this very
important figure. So there's this weird...
It's clear that they think about race
and they don't think about Alberto and
or Adolfo as equivalent, but they also realize
that Alberto Prasso is kind of like not the most,
what they call, not the most
indigenized of the Italians in Ethiopia.
They compare him to one of his business partners
who dresses as an Ethiopian and lives there. And
they think he's totally unacceptable. And they
actually were considering replacing Prasso with
this business partner. But they decided
that process more European and therefore
more acceptable, despite all of their problems
with him. So race is clearly there, but I'm not
sure whether it's necessarily more important
than their strategic interests at this moment.
And I think that's a really interesting
way of thinking about how they're
how they're willing to kind of manipulate
that for their advantage in this period.
I think that final comment just shows
the incredible richness of this biography
that you've chosen, as Hollian was saying, as a
method for understanding this period, imperialism,
commercialism, the intersections, fascism.
I mean, it's an amazingly rich story out of which
you've told us so much about the constellation
of forces in this area at this time. I mean,
it's really quite extraordinary. So,
really, thank you for that wonderful
insight and thank you, Hollian, for your
extraordinarily penetrating questions. They were
really great. That really helped to open it up.
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