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good morning good afternoon and good

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evening no matter where you are located

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evening no matter where you are located

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in the world the ucla center for middle

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in the world the ucla center for middle

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east development would like to welcome

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east development would like to welcome

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you to our fourth episode of a unique

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you to our fourth episode of a unique

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monthly series called cmed chats my name

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monthly series called cmed chats my name

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is salome mohager i'm fema's project

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is salome mohager i'm fema's project

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manager and very excited to have you

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manager and very excited to have you

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here with us today for a very special

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here with us today for a very special

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the cmed chat series engages charismatic

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the cmed chat series engages charismatic

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guests who are from the middle east and

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guests who are from the middle east and

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north africa or who are connected to the

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region in some capacity our equally

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region in some capacity our equally

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engaging hosts will vary throughout the

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engaging hosts will vary throughout the

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series to keep the conversations diverse

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series to keep the conversations diverse

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together they will sit down for

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together they will sit down for

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one-on-one casual chats that cover a

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one-on-one casual chats that cover a

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variety of topics and highlight the many

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variety of topics and highlight the many

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voices and realities that enrich the

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voices and realities that enrich the

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colorful region we lovingly know as mina

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colorful region we lovingly know as mina

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all cmed chat episodes will be recorded

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all cmed chat episodes will be recorded

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and can be viewed on cmed's website or

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and can be viewed on cmed's website or

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youtube page within 24 hours of this

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we will not be accepting audience

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we will not be accepting audience

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questions for our live guests however if

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questions for our live guests however if

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you have any logistics questions feel

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you have any logistics questions feel

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free to let us know in the q a window

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free to let us know in the q a window

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located at the bottom of your zoom

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located at the bottom of your zoom

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and without further ado i will pass the

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and without further ado i will pass the

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microphone to manny jazz c-med's deputy

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microphone to manny jazz c-med's deputy

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manny is co-creator of the ucla center

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manny is co-creator of the ucla center

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for middle east development and has been

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for middle east development and has been

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pivotal in its growth since its

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pivotal in its growth since its

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inception in 2005.

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inception in 2005.

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not only is manny the chief

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not only is manny the chief

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administrative and financial officer of

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administrative and financial officer of

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the center but she is its heart and soul

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the center but she is its heart and soul

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acting as a point of contact for donors

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and sponsors liaising with the ucla and

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and sponsors liaising with the ucla and

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cmed community and stepping in for the

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cmed community and stepping in for the

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director when he is not available

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director when he is not available

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manny graduated from loyola marymount

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manny graduated from loyola marymount

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university with a degree in psychology

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university with a degree in psychology

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speaks fluent arabic and is well

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speaks fluent arabic and is well

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thank you salome for your kind words

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thank you salome for your kind words

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and welcome everyone to um see the cmed

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and welcome everyone to um see the cmed

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when we first decided to um create this

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when we first decided to um create this

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i had holly june as i'd like as i like

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i had holly june as i'd like as i like

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to call her um

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be one of the guests that i wanted to be

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be one of the guests that i wanted to be

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um i've known hala june for almost 20

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um i've known hala june for almost 20

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years and within the first year of our

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years and within the first year of our

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friendship she took me under her wing

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friendship she took me under her wing

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and never looked back hallel was the

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and never looked back hallel was the

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first person i thought of

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first person i thought of

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again when we decided to do the sema

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again when we decided to do the sema

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chats program and i'm humbled that she

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chats program and i'm humbled that she

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accepted our invitation without any

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accepted our invitation without any

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by the way it's my first time so please

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by the way it's my first time so please

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be gentle and without any further delay

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be gentle and without any further delay

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let me introduce you to jale esfendiari

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let me introduce you to jale esfendiari

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hollywood was the founder and director

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hollywood was the founder and director

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of the middle east program at the

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of the middle east program at the

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woodrow wilson international center for

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woodrow wilson international center for

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scholars she is currently a middle east

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scholars she is currently a middle east

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program and public policy scholar at the

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program and public policy scholar at the

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wilson center she's the author of my

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wilson center she's the author of my

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prison my home based on her arrest and

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prison my home based on her arrest and

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imprisonment by the iranian security

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imprisonment by the iranian security

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authorities in 2007.

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authorities in 2007.

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in march 2017 the wilson center

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in march 2017 the wilson center

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announced the launch of the hala

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announced the launch of the hala

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esfendiari forum an annual lecture on

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esfendiari forum an annual lecture on

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women's empowerment in the mena region

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women's empowerment in the mena region

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the inaugural lecture was given by

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the inaugural lecture was given by

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former secretary of state madeleine

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former secretary of state madeleine

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albright among her awards are the

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albright among her awards are the

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special american red cross award and the

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special american red cross award and the

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women's equality award from the national

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women's equality award from the national

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council of women's organizations holly

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council of women's organizations holly

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also received an honorary degree from

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also received an honorary degree from

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georgetown university law center

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welcome holly and thank you for joining

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welcome holly and thank you for joining

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thank you thank you very much money

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thank you thank you very much money

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yes we have known each other for 20

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yes we have known each other for 20

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years but

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it's always a pleasure to to be with you

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it's always a pleasure to to be with you

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i'm i'm looking forward to our chat but

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i'm i'm looking forward to our chat but

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i must say that i feel

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i must say that i feel

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my generation has passed the torch to

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my generation has passed the torch to

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your generation which is wonderful to

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your generation which is wonderful to

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see you so interested in women's issues

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see you so interested in women's issues

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i also would like to thank

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i also would like to thank

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salome and also to say what a pleasure

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salome and also to say what a pleasure

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it was to see steve briefly after quite

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it was to see steve briefly after quite

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okay i'm at your disposal it's an honor

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okay i'm at your disposal it's an honor

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and a pleasure to be with you

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and a pleasure to be with you

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thank you hi baby let's address the

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thank you hi baby let's address the

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elephant in the room and start with your

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elephant in the room and start with your

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time in aveen prison which was to put it

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time in aveen prison which was to put it

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mildly very harrowing

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mildly very harrowing

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it was just a few days ago that you

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it was just a few days ago that you

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celebrated your 14th year anniversary of

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celebrated your 14th year anniversary of

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the release

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when i found out what had happened i

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when i found out what had happened i

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know personally i was shocked and

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know personally i was shocked and

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devastated and completely worried about

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devastated and completely worried about

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you would you mind talking to me about

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you would you mind talking to me about

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that your time there

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that your time there

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what was the experience like how did you

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what was the experience like how did you

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manage to stay alive in such harsh

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manage to stay alive in such harsh

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and do you think that you'll ever go

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and do you think that you'll ever go

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back to iran

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back to iran

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there are you know for everybody many

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there are you know for everybody many

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there are certain days in their lives

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there are certain days in their lives

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that they remember they always remembers

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that they remember they always remembers

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it's usually

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birthdays anniversaries this and that in

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birthdays anniversaries this and that in

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my case i don't think i will ever ever

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my case i don't think i will ever ever

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the morning of may 8

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when i had gone for my

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when i had gone for my

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interrogation to the ministry of

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interrogation to the ministry of

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intelligence in iran

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and this interrogation was going on for

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and this interrogation was going on for

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three months and then i was told

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three months and then i was told

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i should make a call to my mother and

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i should make a call to my mother and

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tell her that

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tell her that

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they are taking me to even prison

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they are taking me to even prison

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this really came as a shock to me i mean

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this really came as a shock to me i mean

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because i am a student of iran i'm

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because i am a student of iran i'm

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familiar with was was going on at having

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familiar with was was going on at having

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and continue to follow

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and continue to follow

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the development of prisoners especially

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the development of prisoners especially

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dual nationals and women activists in

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dual nationals and women activists in

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prison

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and i thought okay i'm going to good

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and i thought okay i'm going to good

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they are taking me in but what will

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they are taking me in but what will

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happen to me so let me tell you briefly

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happen to me so let me tell you briefly

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what happened to me

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what happened to me

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um i was taken to a

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um i was taken to a

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cell i was in

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cell i was in

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i was in solitary confinement

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i was in solitary confinement

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105 days i only saw

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105 days i only saw

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my two one of the two interrogators

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my two one of the two interrogators

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because i had always

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because i had always

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was asked to sit facing the wall not to

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was asked to sit facing the wall not to

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see the main interrogator i had a

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see the main interrogator i had a

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principal interrogator and the junior

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principal interrogator and the junior

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interrogator you know the junior

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interrogator you know the junior

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interrogator was my unwelcome companion

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interrogator was my unwelcome companion

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for all the eight months i was kept

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for all the eight months i was kept

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under country arrest

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the interrogation started

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i was sometimes

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in interrogation for eight hours or nine

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in interrogation for eight hours or nine

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then they would ask all sorts of

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questions i mean and i think their uh

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questions i mean and i think their uh

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aim was to exhaust me so much

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aim was to exhaust me so much

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so that i would just cave in and just

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so that i would just cave in and just

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say okay what do you want me to say i

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say okay what do you want me to say i

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will say it and just let me leave but i

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will say it and just let me leave but i

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didn't do that

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you know i mean um

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you know i mean um

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i feel i'm a strong woman and i'm you

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i feel i'm a strong woman and i'm you

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and i'm a disciplined person

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and i'm a disciplined person

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so i decided okay i'm going to go along

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so i decided okay i'm going to go along

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with this question and answer cherry

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with this question and answer cherry

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for as long as it takes and let's not

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for as long as it takes and let's not

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think of being free they might

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think of being free they might

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keep me forever

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keep me forever

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but and also

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but and also

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i decided that i need to put my family

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i decided that i need to put my family

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out of my mind because i couldn't think

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out of my mind because i couldn't think

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about them and be focused on what was

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about them and be focused on what was

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happening in prison so after the

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happening in prison so after the

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interrogation i would come and pace up

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interrogation i would come and pace up

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and down in my cell

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and down in my cell

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and start going over the question and

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the answers because the tactic was to

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the answers because the tactic was to

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come back to the same question

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come back to the same question

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uh two weeks later and try and figure

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uh two weeks later and try and figure

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out whether you there was a discrepancy

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out whether you there was a discrepancy

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in it and

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catch you

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they never tortured me but they brought

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they never tortured me but they brought

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a loss but i was under a lot of mental

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a loss but i was under a lot of mental

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pressure i'm sure i'm sure

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pressure i'm sure i'm sure

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mental pressure you know threatening me

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mental pressure you know threatening me

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put me on trial i never was put on trial

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put me on trial i never was put on trial

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i was never charged you know i was

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i was never charged you know i was

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accused but never charged what were you

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accused but never charged what were you

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accused of hala

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accused of hala

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i was accused of trying to

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i was accused of trying to

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of endangering

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of endangering

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the islamic the security of the islamic

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the islamic the security of the islamic

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republic can you imagine a woman who was

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republic can you imagine a woman who was

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wearing barely a hundred pounds was

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wearing barely a hundred pounds was

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going to endanger the mightiest country

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going to endanger the mightiest country

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in the region number one

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in the region number one

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number two

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i was also accused of being uh spy so

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i was also accused of being uh spy so

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one day when they were accusing me they

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one day when they were accusing me they

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said you work for mossad you work for

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said you work for mossad you work for

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for mi5 and you work with the cia i said

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for mi5 and you work with the cia i said

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look i mean there should be a limit to

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look i mean there should be a limit to

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for and then we can have a discussion

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for and then we can have a discussion

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that was and this went on

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that was and this went on

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for

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105 days

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105 days

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and uh

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and uh

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you know

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you know

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i never i had once a visit by my mother

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i never i had once a visit by my mother

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towards the end of my stay

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towards the end of my stay

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and

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and

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yeah they they allowed her to come and

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yeah they they allowed her to come and

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see me she was 94 years old so she was

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see me she was 94 years old so she was

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allowed to come with a cousin and in the

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allowed to come with a cousin and in the

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presence of the

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presence of the

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guards we we exchanged some you know we

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guards we we exchanged some you know we

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some just platitude really how are you

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some just platitude really how are you

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i'm doing well what about you how is my

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i'm doing well what about you how is my

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family there so and i was able to code

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family there so and i was able to code

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her twice a week but you know all my

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her twice a week but you know all my

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life i had spoken to my mother in german

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life i had spoken to my mother in german

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because she was austrian i was told i

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because she was austrian i was told i

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have to speak to her in persian and she

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have to speak to her in persian and she

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was you know my link to the outside

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was you know my link to the outside

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world as soon as she would i would speak

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world as soon as she would i would speak

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to her she would call my husband uh

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to her she would call my husband uh

shaolin

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shaolin

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shaolin

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who

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who

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was luckily on sabbatical and could

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was luckily on sabbatical and could

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spend a lot of time trying to get after

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spend a lot of time trying to get after

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get me out of prison and

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get me out of prison and

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tell him word for word what i

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tell him word for word what i

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said

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said

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and

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you know it it was a horrible time i

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you know it it was a horrible time i

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never cried in front of them they tried

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never cried in front of them they tried

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to make me cry and if i wanted to cry i

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to make me cry and if i wanted to cry i

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would cry under the shower because there

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would cry under the shower because there

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was a peephole in the door the door was

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was a peephole in the door the door was

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locked the door of myself and these uh

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locked the door of myself and these uh

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the war

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the women warden would come and check

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the women warden would come and check

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regularly on you

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regularly on you

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you know so

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you know so

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uh it really

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uh it really

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was a horrible horrible

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was a horrible horrible

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and i just

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and i just

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i was very fortunate manny to be

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i was very fortunate manny to be

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to let go

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to let go

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you know to let they let me

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you know to let they let me

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finally go because

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finally go because

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my my

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my my

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release came as a

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release came as a

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surprise just as my arrest came as a

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surprise just as my arrest came as a

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surprise

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surprise

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they came one afternoon and said pack

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they came one afternoon and said pack

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your stuff and go

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your stuff and go

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and i said where

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and i said where

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you know put it they are going to move

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you know put it they are going to move

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me to another prison because that's what

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me to another prison because that's what

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they were doing they said no you can go

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they were doing they said no you can go

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home but we won't let you go back to the

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home but we won't let you go back to the

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u.s to your family you can go to your

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u.s to your family you can go to your

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mother's house

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mother's house

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i was thankful

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i was thankful

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for that but within 10 days they must

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for that but within 10 days they must

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have changed their mind because i

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have changed their mind because i

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received the phone call and said

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received the phone call and said

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get your passport and go to get a ticket

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get your passport and go to get a ticket

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and leave the country

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and leave the country

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and you know me being

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and you know me being

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cynical i said well unfortunately you

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cynical i said well unfortunately you

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confiscated my passport

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confiscated my passport

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it must be in one drawer in the

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it must be in one drawer in the

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intelligence

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intelligence

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so the guy said okay meet me tomorrow

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so the guy said okay meet me tomorrow

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morning at eight at the passport office

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morning at eight at the passport office

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so they issued a new password for me

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so they issued a new password for me

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and i was able to read but i insisted

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and i was able to read but i insisted

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manny that my interrogator should come

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manny that my interrogator should come

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to the airport with me because i was

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to the airport with me because i was

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familiar with their trips you know they

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familiar with their trips you know they

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announced that i've had left the country

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announced that i've had left the country

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but another group had would arrest me

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but another group had would arrest me

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yeah

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yeah

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no i don't go to the airport unless you

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no i don't go to the airport unless you

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come with me

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come with me

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and in prison i managed to write to keep

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and in prison i managed to write to keep

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myself busy i wrote two books in my mind

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myself busy i wrote two books in my mind

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because i get the paper or pencil in my

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because i get the paper or pencil in my

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storybook for my grandchildren who were

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storybook for my grandchildren who were

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then five and three

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then five and three

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and are in college and mashallah also a

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and are in college and mashallah also a

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biography of my paternal grandmother who

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biography of my paternal grandmother who

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had a lot of influence

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had a lot of influence

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on

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on

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me

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me

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i mean she taught me what the real islam

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i mean she taught me what the real islam

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is and she also taught me persian poetry

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is and she also taught me persian poetry

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oh my gosh that's amazing

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oh my gosh that's amazing

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your last part of the question

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your last part of the question

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unfortunately manny i don't think

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unfortunately manny i don't think

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i would be able to go back to iran i

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i would be able to go back to iran i

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mean they would welcome me with the red

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mean they would welcome me with the red

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carpet but they would take me back to

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carpet but they would take me back to

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so um there there are current prisoners

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so um there there are current prisoners

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and he's been in there for quite a while

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and he's been in there for quite a while

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uh what

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uh what

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what do you think is a happening to him

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what do you think is a happening to him

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now and if is he ever going to be

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now and if is he ever going to be

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released

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released

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do you think

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do you think

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every time

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every time

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you know there is a swap of prisoners

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you know there is a swap of prisoners

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between the united states and iran

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between the united states and iran

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i hope and pray that cia mac and other

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i hope and pray that cia mac and other

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dual

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nationals would be

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nationals would be

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part of the swap so far he hasn't been

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part of the swap so far he hasn't been

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lucky i i really think that there is

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lucky i i really think that there is

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they must bear a personal grudge against

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they must bear a personal grudge against

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him because he was the most

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him because he was the most

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gentle person

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gentle person

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you knew him you met him a nationalist

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you knew him you met him a nationalist

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he would speak at the wilson center

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he would speak at the wilson center

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always encouraging people to come to

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always encouraging people to come to

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iran to do business with iran you know

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iran to do business with iran you know

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and he was not political at all

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and he was not political at all

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now just

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now just

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i i to this day i don't understand why

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i i to this day i don't understand why

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he was arrested why his father was

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he was arrested why his father was

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arrested and why the other

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arrested and why the other

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dual nationals are arrested they

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dual nationals are arrested they

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arrested a bunch of environmentalists

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arrested a bunch of environmentalists

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one of them is a dual national

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one of them is a dual national

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just because they were serving the

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just because they were serving the

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cause in iran they were working on

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cause in iran they were working on

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environmental issues in iran so there is

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environmental issues in iran so there is

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and also look at these uh women

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and also look at these uh women

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the women activists in iran women like

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the women activists in iran women like

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nasrin sutude nargis mohammadi

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nasrin sutude nargis mohammadi

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and many others i mean they they have

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and many others i mean they they have

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talked about equality under the law

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talked about equality under the law

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respect for human rights respect for

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respect for human rights respect for

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women's rights they haven't committed

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women's rights they haven't committed

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any crime nothing and they haven't

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any crime nothing and they haven't

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endangered the security of the islamic

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endangered the security of the islamic

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republic but nevertheless they serve in

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republic but nevertheless they serve in

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jail with these absurd long sentences 10

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jail with these absurd long sentences 10

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years or 15 years for just removing your

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years or 15 years for just removing your

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scarf in public

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scarf in public

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so it's it's it's a terrible story but

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so it's it's it's a terrible story but

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when it comes to what happens in even

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when it comes to what happens in even

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and i think there is a big difference i

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and i think there is a big difference i

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was in the hand of the intelligence

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was in the hand of the intelligence

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ministry the people who were

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ministry the people who were

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arrested after 209 are

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arrested after 209 are

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in the hand of the revolution regards

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in the hand of the revolution regards

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intelligence you know

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intelligence you know

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they

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they

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i don't think they are accountable to

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i don't think they are accountable to

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it's it's a very depressing state of

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it's it's a very depressing state of

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affairs to be honest um

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affairs to be honest um

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let's talk about the state of women in

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let's talk about the state of women in

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our beloved region to put it mildly it's

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our beloved region to put it mildly it's

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very depressing

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very depressing

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as you mentioned a few days ago when we

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as you mentioned a few days ago when we

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spoke um

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spoke um

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we've taken one step forward and two

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we've taken one step forward and two

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steps back and in terms of you know

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steps back and in terms of you know

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social change and

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social change and

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women's empowerment

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women's empowerment

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and given that the majority of the

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and given that the majority of the

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countries in the region have a high

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countries in the region have a high

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population of people under the age of 30

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population of people under the age of 30

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how do you envision the region's future

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how do you envision the region's future

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are you optimistic that the next

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are you optimistic that the next

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generation will affect the necessary

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generation will affect the necessary

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by nature i'm an optimist

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by nature i'm an optimist

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really

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and i have

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and i have

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a lot of faith

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a lot of faith

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and confidence

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and confidence

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in the younger generation in our region

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in the younger generation in our region

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there is a big difference i think

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there is a big difference i think

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between this generation and when i grew

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between this generation and when i grew

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up

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up

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the majority of the younger generation

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the majority of the younger generation

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are educated these days

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are educated these days

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secondly

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they are

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they are

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connected through social media and that

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connected through social media and that

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makes a big difference you know they can

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makes a big difference you know they can

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interact with each other

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interact with each other

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and they can

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and they can

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follow

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follow

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follow

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each other's examples

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each other's examples

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to introduce change how to resist

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to introduce change how to resist

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governments you know who impose on them

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governments you know who impose on them

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how to push for equality

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how to push for equality

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under the law how to

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under the law how to

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go for uh

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go for uh

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leadership position managerial positions

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leadership position managerial positions

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you know how to help each other and i'm

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you know how to help each other and i'm

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talking about basically at this point

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talking about basically at this point

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women but the men of this generation are

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women but the men of this generation are

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equally dedicated to bring change and i

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equally dedicated to bring change and i

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think they will

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think they will

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no matter how autocratic the regimes are

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no matter how autocratic the regimes are

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they are the force for change and i

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they are the force for change and i

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always look at the example of iran women

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always look at the example of iran women

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have stood up to this regime for the

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have stood up to this regime for the

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last 40 years and every single change

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last 40 years and every single change

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that took place was because women were

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that took place was because women were

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behind it for example raising the age of

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behind it for example raising the age of

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marriage from 9 to 13 for girls it's

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marriage from 9 to 13 for girls it's

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terrible there was recently a u.n report

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terrible there was recently a u.n report

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which uh

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which uh

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complained or blamed it on for having a

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complained or blamed it on for having a

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substantial number of early

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substantial number of early

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uh marriages for girl between the age of

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uh marriages for girl between the age of

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10 and 14 which i think is criminal

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10 and 14 which i think is criminal

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so i am very optimistic and i think with

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so i am very optimistic and i think with

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a bit of patience this

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a bit of patience this

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the younger generation will achieve

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the younger generation will achieve

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what

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what

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my generation basically was not able to

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my generation basically was not able to

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achieve but

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achieve but

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the this is not homogeneous you know

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the this is not homogeneous you know

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that we have wars i mean and if you are

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that we have wars i mean and if you are

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in a state of war

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in a state of war

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your uh priorities are very different

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your uh priorities are very different

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substantial number of women and girls

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substantial number of women and girls

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are part of the refugee communities and

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are part of the refugee communities and

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definitely cannot go to school so you

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definitely cannot go to school so you

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know

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um when i say i'm an optimist and i hope

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um when i say i'm an optimist and i hope

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that this

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that this

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with bring change i mean the generation

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with bring change i mean the generation

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who is now in stable in countries with

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who is now in stable in countries with

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stable governments there's not that many

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stable governments there's not that many

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of those unfortunately

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of those unfortunately

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so um so going along the same lines then

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so um so going along the same lines then

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uh what role do you think the iranian

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uh what role do you think the iranian

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government or the i'm sorry the new

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government or the i'm sorry the new

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iranian government um can play in

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iranian government um can play in

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women's

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women's

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rights um do you expect more of the same

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rights um do you expect more of the same

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or do you envision any new reforms

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or do you envision any new reforms

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perhaps

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perhaps

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well

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well

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you know mr raj is a very conservative

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you know mr raj is a very conservative

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person and he carries a lot of packages

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person and he carries a lot of packages

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you know

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you know

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human rights violations and so on he

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human rights violations and so on he

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introduced this cabinet there was not a

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introduced this cabinet there was not a

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single woman in that cabinet actually in

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single woman in that cabinet actually in

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the last 40 years the only president

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the last 40 years the only president

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only enough who dared to

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only enough who dared to

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nominate a woman to his cabinet and

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nominate a woman to his cabinet and

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parliament

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parliament

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ratified the nomination was president

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ratified the nomination was president

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ahmadinejad

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ahmadinejad

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who appointed

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who appointed

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the

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woman the former woman mp

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woman the former woman mp

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doctor as her as his minister of health

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doctor as her as his minister of health

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and eventually he fired her because she

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and eventually he fired her because she

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didn't go along with his policies so

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didn't go along with his policies so

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so far we have not had any woman in the

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so far we have not had any woman in the

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cabinet and um

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cabinet and um

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mr ricey i think is following the

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mr ricey i think is following the

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example of his predecessor but his

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example of his predecessor but his

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predecessors all

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predecessors all

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appointed either three or sometimes four

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appointed either three or sometimes four

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or two women vice president with vice

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or two women vice president with vice

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presidents in iran their appointment is

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presidents in iran their appointment is

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the prerogative of the president so it

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the prerogative of the president so it

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doesn't have to be ratified by porn

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doesn't have to be ratified by porn

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so far he has as far as i know

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so far he has as far as i know

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he hasn't appointed a single woman

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he hasn't appointed a single woman

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as his vice president i'm curious to see

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as his vice president i'm curious to see

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what he is going to do with the position

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what he is going to do with the position

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of vice

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of vice

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president

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president

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for women and children's affairs in iran

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for women and children's affairs in iran

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which you know we just have to wait and

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which you know we just have to wait and

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see

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see

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i think the

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i think the

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the first probably six to eight months

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the first probably six to eight months

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he will not uh

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he will not uh

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deal with women's issues because he has

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deal with women's issues because he has

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other problems

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other problems

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but after that

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but after that

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i mean we shall see what it will look

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i mean we shall see what it will look

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like but the women are not going to give

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like but the women are not going to give

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up already the women activists have

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up already the women activists have

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written about him i've written about

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written about him i've written about

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their condition in jail i've written

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their condition in jail i've written

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about violation against women so the the

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about violation against women so the the

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women activists will continue

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women activists will continue

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bringing pressure on him but we will see

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bringing pressure on him but we will see

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what he will do is it don't you think

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what he will do is it don't you think

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i i feel for the women activists in

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i i feel for the women activists in

tehran

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tehran

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tehran

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because they see that their colleagues

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because they see that their colleagues

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have been imprisoned is there a fear

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have been imprisoned is there a fear

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that you shouldn't step too far over the

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that you shouldn't step too far over the

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red line so to speak

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red line so to speak

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um are they

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um are they

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being critical or are they just being

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being critical or are they just being

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critical enough if that makes any sense

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critical enough if that makes any sense

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actually many these iranian women

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actually many these iranian women

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activists

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activists

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fearless

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fearless

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i i really am i'm just in awe

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i i really am i'm just in awe

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about

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about

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their courage

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their courage

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their bravery and i don't think that the

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their bravery and i don't think that the

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current president i see would intimidate

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current president i see would intimidate

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him

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him

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i mean they haven't been intimidated by

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i mean they haven't been intimidated by

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being arrested

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being arrested

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by sent to prison sentenced to 15 years

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by sent to prison sentenced to 15 years

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10 years 30 years i mean all you name if

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10 years 30 years i mean all you name if

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they have been sentenced to they are not

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they have been sentenced to they are not

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i think they have dedicated their lives

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i think they have dedicated their lives

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to the cause

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to the cause

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and whether they are

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and whether they are

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injured or outside the jail they

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injured or outside the jail they

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well that's good to hear um we need more

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well that's good to hear um we need more

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we need fearless women we need you know

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we need fearless women we need you know

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semi-fearless women as long as we speak

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semi-fearless women as long as we speak

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up i think

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up i think

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i i think we can be a force of change

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i i think we can be a force of change

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for sure well um

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for sure well um

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i think i would be remiss if i didn't

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i think i would be remiss if i didn't

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ask you about afghanistan um and the

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ask you about afghanistan um and the

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growing fear that the taliban will

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growing fear that the taliban will

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recali retaliate against the women and

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recali retaliate against the women and

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girls there

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girls there

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and my concern is that the strides that

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and my concern is that the strides that

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they have made in the past 20 years have

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they have made in the past 20 years have

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come to an end

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come to an end

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uh what do you think will happen to

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uh what do you think will happen to

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afghani women and girls given that the

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afghani women and girls given that the

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taliban are saying oh we're a brand new

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taliban are saying oh we're a brand new

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taliban we're more um

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taliban we're more um

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we're more open to things but what are

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we're more open to things but what are

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those things i'm not quite sure yet

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those things i'm not quite sure yet

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i mean

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i mean

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personally i'm very worried for the

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personally i'm very worried for the

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future of afghani

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future of afghani

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women you know and i think

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women you know and i think

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the taliban

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the taliban

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showed their true nature

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showed their true nature

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from

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from

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1996 to

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1996 to

201

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201

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201

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for us who followed closely than the

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for us who followed closely than the

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plight of women in afghanistan we

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plight of women in afghanistan we

remember

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remember

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remember

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women taken to the stadium and being

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women taken to the stadium and being

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flashed flogged

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flashed flogged

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you know we remember

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you know we remember

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we women being reduced to poverty

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we women being reduced to poverty

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sitting in the street corner under their

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sitting in the street corner under their

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burner up digging

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burner up digging

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we remember

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we remember

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young girls being barred from schooling

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young girls being barred from schooling

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so no matter what the taliban say today

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so no matter what the taliban say today

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they have to prove it and look already

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they have to prove it and look already

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yesterday yesterday

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yesterday yesterday

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they announced that women should not

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they announced that women should not

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report to work

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