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okay hello to everyone joining us from

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okay hello to everyone joining us from

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around the world 200 of you from 36

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around the world 200 of you from 36

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different countries we're so honored to

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different countries we're so honored to

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have you as the audience for our very

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have you as the audience for our very

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very important webinar today before we

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very important webinar today before we

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begin I have a few important

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begin I have a few important

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announcements I've been asked to make uh

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announcements I've been asked to make uh

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I'm Steve zipperstein I'm a professor at

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I'm Steve zipperstein I'm a professor at

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UCLA and I'm the associate director of

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UCLA and I'm the associate director of

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the center for Middle East development

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the center for Middle East development

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otherwise known as CED U I want to thank

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otherwise known as CED U I want to thank

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very sincerely our various CLA

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very sincerely our various CLA

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co-sponsors for this webinar The

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co-sponsors for this webinar The

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International Institute the African

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studies Center the burkel center for

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studies Center the burkel center for

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international relations the department

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of political science and my department

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of political science and my department

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the lusin School of Public Affair public

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the lusin School of Public Affair public

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affairs Department of Public Policy um

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affairs Department of Public Policy um

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before we begin uh I want to just share

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before we begin uh I want to just share

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uh a few very very important

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uh a few very very important

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administrative announcements uh just so

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administrative announcements uh just so

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that we all make sure that we understand

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that we all make sure that we understand

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the nature of the zoom webinar platform

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the nature of the zoom webinar platform

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how it works and so forth um we can see

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how it works and so forth um we can see

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uh each other here in our studio but we

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uh each other here in our studio but we

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can't see or hear you you can see us but

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can't see or hear you you can see us but

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we can't see or hear you uh we are

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we can't see or hear you uh we are

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however recording the presentation today

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however recording the presentation today

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for later viewing on the CED website or

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for later viewing on the CED website or

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YouTube our Facebook page and that

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YouTube our Facebook page and that

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recording will be available uh in the

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recording will be available uh in the

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next couple of days uh if you're joining

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next couple of days uh if you're joining

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us live right now via Zoom please notice

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us live right now via Zoom please notice

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the chat window at the bottom of the

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the chat window at the bottom of the

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screen uh we'll use that window to share

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screen uh we'll use that window to share

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announcements during the webinar with

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announcements during the webinar with

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you here in real time however please

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you here in real time however please

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note that you will not be able to add

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note that you will not be able to add

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comments in the chat box if you do have

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comments in the chat box if you do have

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questions and we hope you will have a

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questions and we hope you will have a

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lot of questions we have an amazing

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lot of questions we have an amazing

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moderator and a wonderful panel for you

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moderator and a wonderful panel for you

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today so if you do have questions please

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today so if you do have questions please

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type them using the Q&A window the Q&A

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type them using the Q&A window the Q&A

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window also found at the bottom of your

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window also found at the bottom of your

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screen when you do type a question for

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screen when you do type a question for

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us into the Q&A window please make sure

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us into the Q&A window please make sure

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to include your name your country uh and

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to include your name your country uh and

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affiliation uh and note that uh we will

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affiliation uh and note that uh we will

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announce uh your name your country and

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announce uh your name your country and

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affiliation uh if we're able to have

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affiliation uh if we're able to have

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time uh to put your question to our

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time uh to put your question to our

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panelists want to make sure you all also

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panelists want to make sure you all also

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uh understand that only ourselves at the

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uh understand that only ourselves at the

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CED team will be able to see your

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CED team will be able to see your

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questions uh in some questions we might

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questions uh in some questions we might

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answer in some cases rather we might

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answer in some cases rather we might

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answer your questions in writing in the

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answer your questions in writing in the

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Q&A for others to see but the audience

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uh at large will not be able to see what

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uh at large will not be able to see what

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you type into the Q&A only the CED the

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you type into the Q&A only the CED the

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amazing CED team I should add our

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amazing CED team I should add our

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wonderful staff will be able to see what

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wonderful staff will be able to see what

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you're typing we would ask however that

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you're typing we would ask however that

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you keep your questions as concise as

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you keep your questions as concise as

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possible so that we can get to as many

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possible so that we can get to as many

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of your questions as possible if you're

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of your questions as possible if you're

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joining on the YouTube platform please

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joining on the YouTube platform please

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note you won't be able to ask a question

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note you won't be able to ask a question

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because our staff have disabled comments

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because our staff have disabled comments

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on the YouTube platform okay enough with

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on the YouTube platform okay enough with

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the announcements time to get to our

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the announcements time to get to our

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moderator and our panel and it is my

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moderator and our panel and it is my

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really great honor to introduce our

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really great honor to introduce our

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moderator our moderator today uh my dear

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moderator our moderator today uh my dear

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friend Muhammad Abu Baker uh Muhammad is

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friend Muhammad Abu Baker uh Muhammad is

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a Sudanese human rights activist you see

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a Sudanese human rights activist you see

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him there on the screen with me now

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him there on the screen with me now

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uh he's a peacemaker with a decade and a

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uh he's a peacemaker with a decade and a

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half of Civil Society experience since

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half of Civil Society experience since

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high school he's an amazing person since

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high school he's an amazing person since

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high school he's founded and led

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high school he's founded and led

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organizations and initiatives focused on

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organizations and initiatives focused on

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humanitarian human rights Youth

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Empowerment and peace programs across

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the Middle East and Africa including in

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South Sudan Sudan Egypt and even Israel

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South Sudan Sudan Egypt and even Israel

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and the Palestinian territories and

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and the Palestinian territories and

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Beyond it is my great honor and pleasure

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Beyond it is my great honor and pleasure

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to hand over right now to Muhammad

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to hand over right now to Muhammad

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abubakr Muhammad the floor is yours

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abubakr Muhammad the floor is yours

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thank you so much thank you so much

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thank you so much thank you so much

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Steve and thank you um Center for Middle

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Steve and thank you um Center for Middle

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East at UCLA for making space for this

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East at UCLA for making space for this

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important uh conversation yet one that

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important uh conversation yet one that

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um rarely find the platform um the war

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um rarely find the platform um the war

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in Sudan the Lesser known war uh on

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in Sudan the Lesser known war uh on

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April 15th of last year the war broke

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April 15th of last year the war broke

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out in Sudan and um between the Armed

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out in Sudan and um between the Armed

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Forces uh and the rapid response Force

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Forces uh and the rapid response Force

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led by the um the very same generals who

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led by the um the very same generals who

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together staged the coup against the

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together staged the coup against the

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transitional government of Sudan

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effectively ending Sudan's um inspiring

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effectively ending Sudan's um inspiring

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transition to De democracy and ended the

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transition to De democracy and ended the

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hopes and dreams uh of millions of young

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hopes and dreams uh of millions of young

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Sudanese who peacefully LED um a

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Sudanese who peacefully LED um a

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movement that resulted not only in

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movement that resulted not only in

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removal of the dictator uh Omar Al

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removal of the dictator uh Omar Al

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Basher uh but also set the country on

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Basher uh but also set the country on

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track for incredible and promising uh

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track for incredible and promising uh

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reforms um yet these uh hopes and dreams

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reforms um yet these uh hopes and dreams

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were shattered um uh in October of the

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were shattered um uh in October of the

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year before uh when these two generals

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year before uh when these two generals

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who are now leading the war in Sudan

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who are now leading the war in Sudan

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started a war um uh staged the coup

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started a war um uh staged the coup

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against that transitional

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government um the war in Sudan happened

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government um the war in Sudan happened

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um now is entering its 14th month so

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um now is entering its 14th month so

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meaning that it started um in between

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meaning that it started um in between

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the war in Ukraine and the current war

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the war in Ukraine and the current war

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in Gaza yet um received very little

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in Gaza yet um received very little

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attention over the last 14 months if at

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attention over the last 14 months if at

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all uh not only from media but also from

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all uh not only from media but also from

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policy makers who uh demonstrated

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policy makers who uh demonstrated

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ability to be uh you know uh more

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ability to be uh you know uh more

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outspoken uh uh on on on violations and

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outspoken uh uh on on on violations and

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uh on uh atrocities that takes place

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uh on uh atrocities that takes place

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elsewhere so to shed light on that War

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elsewhere so to shed light on that War

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and why this little coverage we couldn't

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and why this little coverage we couldn't

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have asked for a better Trio of activist

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have asked for a better Trio of activist

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um to and of experts who are here today

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um to and of experts who are here today

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with us and um without further Ado I

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with us and um without further Ado I

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would like to um invite our speakers uh

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would like to um invite our speakers uh

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one by one to present um uh um to our

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one by one to present um uh um to our

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audience today uh but I would like them

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audience today uh but I would like them

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to um make their presentation uh framed

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to um make their presentation uh framed

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around specific

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questions uh the first question is being

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questions uh the first question is being

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where are we now the war has you know

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where are we now the war has you know

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been raging for 14 month uh with very

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been raging for 14 month uh with very

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little updates available on what is

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little updates available on what is

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going on on the ground so we'll start

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going on on the ground so we'll start

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with our first Speaker our first

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with our first Speaker our first

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panelist uh Mr uh Hamed

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panelist uh Mr uh Hamed

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kalaf uh who should be on the screen

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kalaf uh who should be on the screen

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right now and who is a development

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right now and who is a development

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practitioner researcher um and policy

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practitioner researcher um and policy

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analyst and is currently uh a PhD

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analyst and is currently uh a PhD

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candidate at the University of

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candidate at the University of

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Manchester Mr Kal

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Manchester Mr Kal

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thank you so much uh Muhammad and thank

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thank you so much uh Muhammad and thank

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you so much to s for organizing this

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you so much to s for organizing this

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very timely panel uh as you mentioned it

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very timely panel uh as you mentioned it

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has been more than 13 months now since

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has been more than 13 months now since

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the war erupted in Sudan between the

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the war erupted in Sudan between the

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rapid support forces and the Sudan armed

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rapid support forces and the Sudan armed

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uh forces and what has essentially

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uh forces and what has essentially

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started as a power struggle between two

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started as a power struggle between two

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generals has now turned into um a

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generals has now turned into um a

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full-blown war with act uh uh you know

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full-blown war with act uh uh you know

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actors in the region and Beyond uh

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actors in the region and Beyond uh

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playing active roles in sustaining the

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playing active roles in sustaining the

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fighting and fueling uh the ongoing War

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fighting and fueling uh the ongoing War

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um with high risks of the situation

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um with high risks of the situation

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deteriorating in a Countrywide uh Civil

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deteriorating in a Countrywide uh Civil

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War and we have already seen very uh you

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War and we have already seen very uh you

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know painful sides of Civil War in

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know painful sides of Civil War in

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specific parts of the country

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particularly in Dar for so the war is

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particularly in Dar for so the war is

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still ongoing

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still ongoing

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more than 13 months later at full speed

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and expanding in new territories every

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and expanding in new territories every

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day and in that regard the latest

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day and in that regard the latest

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development on the ground now is the

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development on the ground now is the

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siege of alfas city which has been

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siege of alfas city which has been

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ongoing for uh quite some time now uh

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dfor with rsf besieging the city

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essentially and you know um and and

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essentially and you know um and and

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continuing to attack there who are

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continuing to attack there who are

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mostly people who are IPS themselves uh

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mostly people who are IPS themselves uh

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internet dis space people who sought uh

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internet dis space people who sought uh

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refuge in Al fasher after many other uh

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refuge in Al fasher after many other uh

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or all other cities and and and other

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or all other cities and and and other

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parts of the for region region fell

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parts of the for region region fell

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under the capture of the rapid support

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under the capture of the rapid support

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forces so these people are already you

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forces so these people are already you

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know extremely vulnerable and now with

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know extremely vulnerable and now with

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the tack and the besiege of faset they

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the tack and the besiege of faset they

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remain at even further risks uh more

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remain at even further risks uh more

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than one million people actually now and

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than one million people actually now and

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you know there are serious signs of

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you know there are serious signs of

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genocide underway uh while people are um

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genocide underway uh while people are um

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trapped in Al faser in what is

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trapped in Al faser in what is

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essentially now a killbox uh basically

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essentially now a killbox uh basically

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nowhere to escape to uh and you know as

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nowhere to escape to uh and you know as

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the rapid support forces continue their

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the rapid support forces continue their

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offensives uh on the City and

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offensives uh on the City and

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surrounding Villages and also in return

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surrounding Villages and also in return

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the saf and um other Allied groups and

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the saf and um other Allied groups and

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so on are using Air Force uh which

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so on are using Air Force uh which

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overall resulted in so many civilians uh

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overall resulted in so many civilians uh

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losing their lives uh just by being

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losing their lives uh just by being

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caught in the crossfire uh it's

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caught in the crossfire uh it's

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estimated that at least 200 people were

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estimated that at least 200 people were

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killed in the last couple of days in Al

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killed in the last couple of days in Al

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fasher its own so yeah Sudan is the

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fasher its own so yeah Sudan is the

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worst humanitarian crisis in the world

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worst humanitarian crisis in the world

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currently uh and it is estimated that at

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currently uh and it is estimated that at

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least 100 50,000 people were killed

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least 100 50,000 people were killed

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since the war erupted but personally I

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since the war erupted but personally I

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think that is uh you know under

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think that is uh you know under

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estimation of the actual number of

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estimation of the actual number of

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people who Rost their lives because they

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people who Rost their lives because they

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are no you know adequate or accurate

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are no you know adequate or accurate

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records to show us how many people were

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records to show us how many people were

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killed uh according to the un uh to the

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killed uh according to the un uh to the

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Bas at almost 8 million people have been

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Bas at almost 8 million people have been

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displaced since they started and that is

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displaced since they started and that is

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on top of four million people who were

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on top of four million people who were

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already displaced before they were

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already displaced before they were

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started due to previous uh conflicts and

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started due to previous uh conflicts and

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crisis and so on and at least 7 million

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crisis and so on and at least 7 million

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people of those have been displaced

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people of those have been displaced

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within the country in Sudan and are

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within the country in Sudan and are

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facing very dire circumstances more than

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facing very dire circumstances more than

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half of the country's population that is

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half of the country's population that is

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around 25 uh million people are in need

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around 25 uh million people are in need

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of um immediate human humanitarian

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of um immediate human humanitarian

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assistance and you know on the other

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assistance and you know on the other

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side the humanitarian the international

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side the humanitarian the international

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humanitarian response is Gravely

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humanitarian response is Gravely

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inadequate um and currently many many

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inadequate um and currently many many

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parts of the country now are currently

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parts of the country now are currently

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facing uh a telecommunications blackout

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facing uh a telecommunications blackout

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which does not only impede people's

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which does not only impede people's

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ability to communicate with the outside

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ability to communicate with the outside

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world and so on but it complicates and

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world and so on but it complicates and

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almost hinders humanitarian assistance

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almost hinders humanitarian assistance

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efforts uh because you know this is a

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efforts uh because you know this is a

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war country a World War T country

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war country a World War T country

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basically so um the economy is has

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basically so um the economy is has

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become almost cash cashless and people

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become almost cash cashless and people

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re rely on mobile money uh to go about

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re rely on mobile money uh to go about

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their daily lives so that Tel blackout

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their daily lives so that Tel blackout

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is causing um you know serious uh risks

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is causing um you know serious uh risks

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uh to people uh also in the same ve uh

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uh to people uh also in the same ve uh

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there have been several incidence of

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there have been several incidence of

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both Waring factions obstructing

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both Waring factions obstructing

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humanitarian Aid delivery in so many

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humanitarian Aid delivery in so many

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ways uh and that also complicates the

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ways uh and that also complicates the

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situation even

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situation even

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further in terms of access to health

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further in terms of access to health

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health care facilities around 80% of the

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health care facilities around 80% of the

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country healthare facilities have are

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country healthare facilities have are

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either inoperable or

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either inoperable or

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inaccessible uh and also they another

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inaccessible uh and also they another

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very catastrophic issue which is hunger

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very catastrophic issue which is hunger

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around 18 uh million people uh and that

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around 18 uh million people uh and that

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is third of the country's population are

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is third of the country's population are

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currently facing acute hunger and five

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currently facing acute hunger and five

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million of them are already in famine uh

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million of them are already in famine uh

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and on the international side I think

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and on the international side I think

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you know in in response to this very

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you know in in response to this very

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disastrous and catastrophic uh situation

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disastrous and catastrophic uh situation

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that I just described but I think the

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that I just described but I think the

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situation on the ground is even much

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situation on the ground is even much

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more worse because like I said we don't

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more worse because like I said we don't

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get enough information because of the

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get enough information because of the

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internet internet blackout in many parts

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internet internet blackout in many parts

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of the country but the international uh

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of the country but the international uh

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response uh regrettably has been you

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response uh regrettably has been you

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know rather slow fragmented and um you

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know rather slow fragmented and um you

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know basically lack luster uh a

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know basically lack luster uh a

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lackluster response to the War uh on

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lackluster response to the War uh on

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different fronts and they have no be

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different fronts and they have no be

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they haven't been any serious efforts to

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they haven't been any serious efforts to

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disincentivize the warning factions uh

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disincentivize the warning factions uh

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from continuing the fight

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from continuing the fight

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uh so yes by all measures Sudan is

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uh so yes by all measures Sudan is

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experiencing a

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experiencing a

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humanitarian um catastrophe of epic

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humanitarian um catastrophe of epic

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proportions and I think it has you know

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proportions and I think it has you know

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not only devastating impacts on the

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not only devastating impacts on the

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Sudanese people but there is also you

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Sudanese people but there is also you

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know a ripple effect uh that could

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know a ripple effect uh that could

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potentially go across the Sahel the Horn

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potentially go across the Sahel the Horn

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of Africa and uh you

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of Africa and uh you

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know risking the security of of the

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know risking the security of of the

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entire region basically and

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entire region basically and

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unfortunately the word is looking

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unfortunately the word is looking

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away I will stop

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away I will stop

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here you Hamed and thank you for the

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here you Hamed and thank you for the

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sobering reminder of the scale uh of

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sobering reminder of the scale uh of

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what's going on in Sudan um it was a

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what's going on in Sudan um it was a

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slowburn um War but uh definitely in

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slowburn um War but uh definitely in

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terms of scale of atrocities um uh scale

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terms of scale of atrocities um uh scale

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of Devastation and long-term effect is

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of Devastation and long-term effect is

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by no means less important uh than any

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by no means less important uh than any

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of the other Wars currently going on uh

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of the other Wars currently going on uh

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around the world um and to tackle this

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around the world um and to tackle this

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same question uh but probably from a

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same question uh but probably from a

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from a more um anecdotal um uh angle I

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from a more um anecdotal um uh angle I

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would like to turn to our next speaker

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would like to turn to our next speaker

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um U Miss Abbas Sudanese feminist writer

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um U Miss Abbas Sudanese feminist writer

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activist and co-author of uh undoing

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activist and co-author of uh undoing

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resistance um

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resistance um

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and most importantly my very dear friend

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and most importantly my very dear friend

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uh so uh go

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uh so uh go

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ahead yeah thank you thank you for this

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ahead yeah thank you thank you for this

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opportunity and thanks to all the other

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opportunity and thanks to all the other

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guests um it's a pleasure to be here

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guests um it's a pleasure to be here

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with you um I think what how I want to

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with you um I think what how I want to

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start is I want to challenge the common

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start is I want to challenge the common

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um framing of this conflict I mean many

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um framing of this conflict I mean many

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times in many media Outlets we hear that

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times in many media Outlets we hear that

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this conflict is about is between two

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this conflict is about is between two

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if it is between two generals then I

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if it is between two generals then I

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think um the four of us here you know

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think um the four of us here you know

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hammed we am Muhammad and myself would

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hammed we am Muhammad and myself would

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not have had our our homes occupied by

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not have had our our homes occupied by

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the rsf militia would not have had our

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the rsf militia would not have had our

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homes looted would not have lost

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homes looted would not have lost

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basically a lot of things you know and

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basically a lot of things you know and

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it's not only us it's also all the

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it's not only us it's also all the

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families um we know and all our

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families um we know and all our

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acquaintances um we are talking about if

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acquaintances um we are talking about if

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we're talking about Harum for example Le

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we're talking about Harum for example Le

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a city that had about 10.9 million um in

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a city that had about 10.9 million um in

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April 14th

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April 14th

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2023 um end of the end of 2023 the city

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2023 um end of the end of 2023 the city

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had less than 2

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had less than 2

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million and um it had so basically 8

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million and um it had so basically 8

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million people or over 8 million people

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million people or over 8 million people

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fled many people um we're talking about

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fled many people um we're talking about

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hundreds of thousands of homes that were

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hundreds of thousands of homes that were

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looted people lost everything markets

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looted people lost everything markets

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burned down

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burned down

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um so many a lot of our history and our

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um so many a lot of our history and our

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present has been lost due to this war so

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present has been lost due to this war so

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this is not a war between General

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this is not a war between General

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between two generals because if it is I

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between two generals because if it is I

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would not have people you know sitting

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would not have people you know sitting

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in my house right now uh militia men

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in my house right now uh militia men

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sitting in my house right now occuping

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sitting in my house right now occuping

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it I would not have had um a lot of the

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it I would not have had um a lot of the

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things and a lot of the things I cared

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things and a lot of the things I cared

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about basically looted or taken away and

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about basically looted or taken away and

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so on this is a very personal War it has

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so on this is a very personal War it has

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come into our homes

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come into our homes

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um so it's um this is a war against the

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um so it's um this is a war against the

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Sudanese State it's a war against the

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Sudanese State it's a war against the

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identity of the state and it is a war

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identity of the state and it is a war

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that is like I said our past and our

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that is like I said our past and our

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present is being taken away from us just

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present is being taken away from us just

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to give you an example of what has been

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to give you an example of what has been

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uh just to give you some examples to

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uh just to give you some examples to

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understand the gravity of what I'm

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understand the gravity of what I'm

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talking about and what has been

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talking about and what has been

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destroyed um so many historical churches

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destroyed um so many historical churches

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and mosques have been attacked and loot

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and mosques have been attacked and loot

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you know some of the oldest you know um

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you know some of the oldest you know um

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you know U religious basically um uh you

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you know U religious basically um uh you

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know religious entities and venues in

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know religious entities and venues in

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Sudan has have been attacked um the

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Sudan has have been attacked um the

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ministry of higher education reported

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ministry of higher education reported

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that over 30 universities were looted or

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that over 30 universities were looted or

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damaged in Kum State alone 104 okay like

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damaged in Kum State alone 104 okay like

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104 a governmental and private hire in

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104 a governmental and private hire in

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higher education and re research centers

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higher education and re research centers

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were looted damaged or burned in entire

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were looted damaged or burned in entire

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universities were burnt um research

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universities were burnt um research

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centers were looted including uh the the

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centers were looted including uh the the

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uh the very important Muhammad Omar

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uh the very important Muhammad Omar

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Basher Center for Sudanese studies which

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Basher Center for Sudanese studies which

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had very rare

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had very rare

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manuscripts um this is why I want to

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manuscripts um this is why I want to

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talk about our past you know our past

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talk about our past you know our past

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manuscripts the the books that are so

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manuscripts the the books that are so

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rare have been burned um by the of

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rare have been burned um by the of

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course the rsf militia um many

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course the rsf militia um many

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universities have been looted a lot of

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universities have been looted a lot of

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very important work has been lost um if

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very important work has been lost um if

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we also go to Heritage sites the museum

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we also go to Heritage sites the museum

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was looted the museum was attacked U

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was looted the museum was attacked U

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mummies dating back to you know

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mummies dating back to you know

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thousands of years uh were tampered with

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thousands of years uh were tampered with

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this is our history you know our like

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this is our history you know our like

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danubian you know history and thebian

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danubian you know history and thebian

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civilization um Heritage sites were um

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civilization um Heritage sites were um

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you know visited by the rsf militias who

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you know visited by the rsf militias who

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threatened you know damage um the

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threatened you know damage um the

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National Corporation of Antiquities and

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National Corporation of Antiquities and

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museums you know is um was looted as

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museums you know is um was looted as

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well and right now you go to you find

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well and right now you go to you find

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Facebook groups that are selling

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Facebook groups that are selling

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artifacts and manuscripts dating back to

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artifacts and manuscripts dating back to

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hundreds and thousands of years you know

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hundreds and thousands of years you know

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so our history is is being lost you know

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so our history is is being lost you know

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and so and we have seen attacks on so

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and so and we have seen attacks on so

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many different Heritage and cultural

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many different Heritage and cultural

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sites on museums so this is why this war

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sites on museums so this is why this war

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is a war on our identity it's a war on

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is a war on our identity it's a war on

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the state itself cultural centers such

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the state itself cultural centers such

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as Abdul karimani Center were looted the

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as Abdul karimani Center were looted the

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house of Heritage was burned uh books

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house of Heritage was burned uh books

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you know so many warehouses and

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you know so many warehouses and

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libraries were burned or Lo

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libraries were burned or Lo

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so when we talk about this war let us

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so when we talk about this war let us

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not talk about it as a war between two

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not talk about it as a war between two

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generals because this way we're not

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generals because this way we're not

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doing Justice to the people of Sudan who

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doing Justice to the people of Sudan who

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right now are losing just everything

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right now are losing just everything

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about them and when everything is

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about them and when everything is

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attacked the his Heritage civilization

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attacked the his Heritage civilization

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uh education the civilian infrastruct

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uh education the civilian infrastruct

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infrastructure and also of course our

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infrastructure and also of course our

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homes you know and all the things we

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homes you know and all the things we

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cared about it's becoming it is a war on

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cared about it's becoming it is a war on

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civilians it is a war on civilians and

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civilians it is a war on civilians and

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it is a war on women because we have

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it is a war on women because we have

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seen so many violations against women

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seen so many violations against women

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violations that we have only seen in

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violations that we have only seen in

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Iraq and Syria when Isis was was you

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Iraq and Syria when Isis was was you

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know uh widespread there you know

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know uh widespread there you know

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selling women using them as sex slaves

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selling women using them as sex slaves

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selling them in markets so this is a war

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selling them in markets so this is a war

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on civilians and it's a war on women it

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on civilians and it's a war on women it

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is not a war between two generals thank

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is not a war between two generals thank

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you thank you re indeed is not war on

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you thank you re indeed is not war on

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two general

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two general

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um between two generals and definitely a

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um between two generals and definitely a

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war on our very identity as people and

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war on our very identity as people and

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um not only that if I may add we are

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um not only that if I may add we are

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also uh seeing the characterization of

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also uh seeing the characterization of

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it being a Civil War which in my opinion

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it being a Civil War which in my opinion

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couldn't be more misleading uh as title

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couldn't be more misleading uh as title

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it is war on civilians not a civil war

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it is war on civilians not a civil war

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um that is going on in Sudan um of

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um that is going on in Sudan um of

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course War like in Sudan like all wars

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course War like in Sudan like all wars

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doesn't uh always affect all citizens

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doesn't uh always affect all citizens

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equally some suffer the wrath of War uh

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equally some suffer the wrath of War uh

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a lot more than others um you know women

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a lot more than others um you know women

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don't experience War the same way men do

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don't experience War the same way men do

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um uh sexual minorities don't uh

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um uh sexual minorities don't uh

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experience it the same way ethnic

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experience it the same way ethnic

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minorities more historically vulnerable

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minorities more historically vulnerable

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groups uh also experience it very very

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groups uh also experience it very very

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subjectively and to shed light on that I

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subjectively and to shed light on that I

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will turn to our next speaker um G

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will turn to our next speaker um G

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gender parity uh Advocate and fellow of

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gender parity uh Advocate and fellow of

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the African middle Easter leadership

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the African middle Easter leadership

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project um Miss weam shogi we am please

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project um Miss weam shogi we am please

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go ahead we am uh we will Circle back to

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go ahead we am uh we will Circle back to

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you while your technical difficulty is

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you while your technical difficulty is

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resolved uh but meanwhile I would like

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resolved uh but meanwhile I would like

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to um turn back to our um hammed and re

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to um turn back to our um hammed and re

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uh with the new uh question you

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uh with the new uh question you

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mentioned Hamed that signs of genocide

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mentioned Hamed that signs of genocide

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are are you know are evident in in areas

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are are you know are evident in in areas

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like Alasia um uh reim spoke of you know

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like Alasia um uh reim spoke of you know

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yazidi genoid like um actions being

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yazidi genoid like um actions being

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taken in Sudan again the war essentially

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taken in Sudan again the war essentially

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unlike um we am yes it's working so we

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unlike um we am yes it's working so we

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will Circle back to you very soon

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will Circle back to you very soon

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um and yeah we would like I would like

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um and yeah we would like I would like

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to know

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to know

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why if any um why the International

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why if any um why the International

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Community be in the media side or in the

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Community be in the media side or in the

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policy maker side seems to be reluctant

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policy maker side seems to be reluctant

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to show any kind of solidarity with the

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to show any kind of solidarity with the

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victims of this war through meaningful

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victims of this war through meaningful

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coverage on one hand of what's going on

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coverage on one hand of what's going on

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or uh through

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or uh through

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resolutions um in international uh

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resolutions um in international uh

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bodies like the UN or um in you know in

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bodies like the UN or um in you know in

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Congress here in the United States or in

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Congress here in the United States or in

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in the European Union why why this

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in the European Union why why this

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reluctance why this lack of action is it

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reluctance why this lack of action is it

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simply racism or is it more complicated

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simply racism or is it more complicated

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than that sure uh I can I can start by

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than that sure uh I can I can start by

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speaking a bit about why I think the

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speaking a bit about why I think the

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media is ignoring the war in Sudan and

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media is ignoring the war in Sudan and

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maybe R could come in to speak about why

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maybe R could come in to speak about why

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you know Western US policy makers are

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you know Western US policy makers are

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not giving the war Sudan enough

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not giving the war Sudan enough

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attention and I think there are so many

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attention and I think there are so many

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reasons why we could see this lack of

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reasons why we could see this lack of

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coverage uh you know in terms of uh

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coverage uh you know in terms of uh

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what's happening in Sudan many people

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what's happening in Sudan many people

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try to kind of attribute it now to the

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try to kind of attribute it now to the

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war on Gaza taking priority and so on

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war on Gaza taking priority and so on

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but the war in Sudan started six months

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but the war in Sudan started six months

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before before the war in Gaza started uh

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before before the war in Gaza started uh

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so there was still no coverage uh over

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so there was still no coverage uh over

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the P the the six month that preceded

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the P the the six month that preceded

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that so I think that's not really um the

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that so I think that's not really um the

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thing I think what it is is particularly

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thing I think what it is is particularly

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when it comes to Media uh but also in

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when it comes to Media uh but also in

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terms of international interest uh

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terms of international interest uh

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unfortunately there's a global order uh

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unfortunately there's a global order uh

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for how things work there's a global

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for how things work there's a global

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hierarchy for countries and parts of the

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hierarchy for countries and parts of the

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world that are more important than other

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world that are more important than other

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parts of the

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parts of the

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world this is related to geopolitics

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world this is related to geopolitics

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this is related to the you know the

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this is related to the you know the

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importance of specific countries for

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importance of specific countries for

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specific reasons uh a lot of it could be

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specific reasons uh a lot of it could be

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you know read within the international

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you know read within the international

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hierarchies the inter the racist you

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hierarchies the inter the racist you

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know the racist the racist structures of

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know the racist the racist structures of

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international uh media

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international uh media

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outlets and so on uh but I think also it

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outlets and so on uh but I think also it

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is this could be also attributed to the

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is this could be also attributed to the

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fact that Sudan has been out of the

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fact that Sudan has been out of the

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global uh scenes for more than 30 years

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global uh scenes for more than 30 years

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during the bashid regime uh and

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during the bashid regime uh and

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particularly when there were sanctions

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particularly when there were sanctions

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on Sudan and so on so Sudan was very

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on Sudan and so on so Sudan was very

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much isolated and no one knew what was

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much isolated and no one knew what was

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going on in the country so I think

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going on in the country so I think

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getting the media Outlets to become more

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getting the media Outlets to become more

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interested in Sudan will will take uh

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interested in Sudan will will take uh

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more

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more

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time so yeah it's been a low priority

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time so yeah it's been a low priority

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but I think there's also a premise and

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but I think there's also a premise and

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assumption that you know the war in

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assumption that you know the war in

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Sudan is more or less business as as

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Sudan is more or less business as as

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usual it is expected uh in a way that

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usual it is expected uh in a way that

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Sudan will be in war which is a very

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Sudan will be in war which is a very

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problematic uh you know way of of of

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problematic uh you know way of of of

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viewing the country very dehumanizing

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viewing the country very dehumanizing

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but also very ignorant um you know

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but also very ignorant um you know

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assumption and premise that dismisses

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assumption and premise that dismisses

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the fact that this is not a War caused

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the fact that this is not a War caused

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by the Sudanese uh people in anyway uh

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by the Sudanese uh people in anyway uh

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as as as we will you know we can speak

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as as as we will you know we can speak

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later about you know more of the

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later about you know more of the

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regional actors and and and so on and I

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regional actors and and and so on and I

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think one one one last point that I

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think one one one last point that I

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could add is that media Outlets uh and

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could add is that media Outlets uh and

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in you know International the public in

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in you know International the public in

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general Global public and so on are more

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general Global public and so on are more

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comfortable in dealing with very you

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comfortable in dealing with very you

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know simplified uh narratives uh in a

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know simplified uh narratives uh in a

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way where there's a good guy and a bad

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way where there's a good guy and a bad

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guy and this is how you understand the

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guy and this is how you understand the

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war and this is how you understand the

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war and this is how you understand the

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situation and that's you know it's it's

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situation and that's you know it's it's

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easier to understand but that's not the

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easier to understand but that's not the

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case in Sudan uh understanding the world

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case in Sudan uh understanding the world

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in Sudan requires very Nuance reporting

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in Sudan requires very Nuance reporting

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uh from from International media Outlets

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uh from from International media Outlets

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because it's very complex it's

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because it's very complex it's

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multi-dimensional as as as also

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multi-dimensional as as as also

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mentioned has so many different factors

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mentioned has so many different factors

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and and so on and that requires very you

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and and so on and that requires very you

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know like I said newon supporting which

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know like I said newon supporting which

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lacks on Sudan and particularly with the

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lacks on Sudan and particularly with the

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lack of international um journalists uh

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lack of international um journalists uh

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uh on the ground in in Sudan this is

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uh on the ground in in Sudan this is

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basically a because of the lack it's not

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basically a because of the lack it's not

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a priority but also because of

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a priority but also because of

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bureaucratic uh obstacles that are being

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bureaucratic uh obstacles that are being

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uh you know put in place by theing

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uh you know put in place by theing

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factions I can stop

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factions I can stop

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here wonderful and I actually would like

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here wonderful and I actually would like

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to cover that complexity and and mult

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to cover that complexity and and mult

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you know and the multiple actors seldom

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you know and the multiple actors seldom

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talked about and uh for that I want to

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talked about and uh for that I want to

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turn to uh re who are these actors who's

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turn to uh re who are these actors who's

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uh who's steering this war beyond the

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uh who's steering this war beyond the

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generals and beyond their obvious

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generals and beyond their obvious

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supporters who's less

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supporters who's less

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obvious yes um I think it's very fair to

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obvious yes um I think it's very fair to

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talk about the international actors uh I

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talk about the international actors uh I

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mean and before that I do want to

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mean and before that I do want to

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mention one thing um the rsf is a is a

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mention one thing um the rsf is a is a

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crossborder you know militia so it also

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crossborder you know militia so it also

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um it's able to recruit and it's able to

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um it's able to recruit and it's able to

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mobilize from outside the borders so far

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mobilize from outside the borders so far

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it's been able to mobilize from central

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it's been able to mobilize from central

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Africa Republic Chad Niger Mali morania

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Africa Republic Chad Niger Mali morania

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Libya so it's been able to mobilize from

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Libya so it's been able to mobilize from

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many countries because because of the

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many countries because because of the

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way um Colonial borders are basically in

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way um Colonial borders are basically in

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Africa so a lot of groups and

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Africa so a lot of groups and

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communities are spread out across a

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communities are spread out across a

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number of countries um and they don't

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number of countries um and they don't

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make sense of colonial borders uh the

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make sense of colonial borders uh the

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way a lot of us do so uh so so they have

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way a lot of us do so uh so so they have

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been able to kind of use this um uh you

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been able to kind of use this um uh you

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know this community of theirs that is

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know this community of theirs that is

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spread out across the sah region to uh

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spread out across the sah region to uh

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to to get Fighters and this is why you

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to to get Fighters and this is why you

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Contin you continuously have this flow

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Contin you continuously have this flow

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of Fighters coming into the country um

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of Fighters coming into the country um

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but the other thing that is important is

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but the other thing that is important is

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also the fact that there are a number of

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also the fact that there are a number of

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countries that are involved in this war

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countries that are involved in this war

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first of all a lot of the the the

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first of all a lot of the the the

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weapons that are coming to the rsf are

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weapons that are coming to the rsf are

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coming through um Chad okay neighboring

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coming through um Chad okay neighboring

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Chad and they're coming through an

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Chad and they're coming through an

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airport that is that was that is

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airport that is that was that is

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operating on the borders between the two

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operating on the borders between the two

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countries and they're coming from the

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countries and they're coming from the

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UAE so the UAE is is the biggest

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UAE so the UAE is is the biggest

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supporter of of the rsf militia and um

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supporter of of the rsf militia and um

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and for many reasons the U the UAE wants

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and for many reasons the U the UAE wants

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uh you know H to be

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uh you know H to be

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ow was um he had a lot of business in

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ow was um he had a lot of business in

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the UAE he uh he he was able to support

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the UAE he uh he he was able to support

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the to support the UAE and also Saudi

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the to support the UAE and also Saudi

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Arabia in the the war on Yemen or you

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Arabia in the the war on Yemen or you

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know the war on Yemen which is still

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know the war on Yemen which is still

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happening so he was able to also use

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happening so he was able to also use

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this belt to kind of mobilize a lot of

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this belt to kind of mobilize a lot of

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young men who are poor who have no jobs

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young men who are poor who have no jobs

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who have nothing to do to go and fight

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who have nothing to do to go and fight

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uh on behalf of the UAE and Saudi Arabia

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uh on behalf of the UAE and Saudi Arabia

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in the war on on Yemen and at the same

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in the war on on Yemen and at the same

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time also to benefit from Sudan's gold a

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time also to benefit from Sudan's gold a

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lot of as you know a lot of Sudan's gold

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lot of as you know a lot of Sudan's gold

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Sudan is a very rich country when it

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Sudan is a very rich country when it

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comes to gold and resources uh is going

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comes to gold and resources uh is going

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to the UAE and it's there's a lot of

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to the UAE and it's there's a lot of

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blood gold involved um the other thing

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blood gold involved um the other thing

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is also that um Sudan is strategic

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is also that um Sudan is strategic

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because the UAE and other countries you

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because the UAE and other countries you

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know in the gulf and so on they see it

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know in the gulf and so on they see it

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as a

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as a

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potential uh bread basket that can um

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potential uh bread basket that can um

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you know that can secure the the

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you know that can secure the the

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food the future basically of food

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food the future basically of food

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Security in the Gulf area so there are a

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Security in the Gulf area so there are a

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lot of reasons why um you know taking

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lot of reasons why um you know taking

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over Sudan makes a lot of sense but of

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over Sudan makes a lot of sense but of

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course the way they Envision it is that

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course the way they Envision it is that

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it's going to be a DRC or a congol likee

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it's going to be a DRC or a congol likee

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situation where you have people um you

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situation where you have people um you

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know completely basically you know

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know completely basically you know

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enslaved uh so they can just work the

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enslaved uh so they can just work the

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land and work to extract the resources

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land and work to extract the resources

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uh to the benefit of different people

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uh to the benefit of different people

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and and of course and have a a

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and and of course and have a a

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government or militias basically that

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government or militias basically that

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are just kind of doing this work on

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are just kind of doing this work on

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behalf of foreign agents without

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behalf of foreign agents without

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providing any services and this is

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providing any services and this is

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really what we don't we don't want Sudan

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really what we don't we don't want Sudan

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to to become like uh there are other

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to to become like uh there are other

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also uh you know actors we have seen for

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also uh you know actors we have seen for

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example the the

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example the the

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Sudanese Army receiving uh weapons from

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Sudanese Army receiving uh weapons from

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Iran we have seen that and it's mainly

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Iran we have seen that and it's mainly

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because it the Army has not found allies

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because it the Army has not found allies

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in in other countries and it has not

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in in other countries and it has not

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found allies in the general um you know

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found allies in the general um you know

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countries that usually depends on such

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countries that usually depends on such

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as Egypt and so on so it has been

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as Egypt and so on so it has been

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getting weapons from Iran uh over the

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getting weapons from Iran uh over the

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past few months uh the other countries

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past few months uh the other countries

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that are also in the conflict somehow um

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that are also in the conflict somehow um

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other countries such as you know we've

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other countries such as you know we've

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seen some role for like Uganda and South

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seen some role for like Uganda and South

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Sudan and it's mainly inir trols but uh

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Sudan and it's mainly inir trols but uh

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there were but weapons were passed

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there were but weapons were passed

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through Uganda we know that over the

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through Uganda we know that over the

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past few month and this was emphasized

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past few month and this was emphasized

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in an article uh in I think it was the

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in an article uh in I think it was the

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Wall Street Journal and we've also seen

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Wall Street Journal and we've also seen

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Fighters and and and some um you know

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Fighters and and and some um you know

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items food items and and petrol and so

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items food items and and petrol and so

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on that is um kind of uh you know uh

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on that is um kind of uh you know uh

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that is brought across the border from

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that is brought across the border from

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South Sudan to to the benefit of the rsf

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South Sudan to to the benefit of the rsf

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so it's definitely the more and more um

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so it's definitely the more and more um

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you know the war continues the more you

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you know the war continues the more you

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see more actors I also want to mention

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see more actors I also want to mention

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that Vagner was very um much present on

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that Vagner was very um much present on

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the side of the rsf so we have seen

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the side of the rsf so we have seen

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Vagner on the side of the rsf supplying

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Vagner on the side of the rsf supplying

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them with uh with different different U

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them with uh with different different U

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equipment you know surveillance

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equipment you know surveillance

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equipment and so on and also

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equipment and so on and also

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intelligence and also ways of working

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intelligence and also ways of working

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and training and we have seen also the

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and training and we have seen also the

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Ukrainian Special Forces fight and doing

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Ukrainian Special Forces fight and doing

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Special Operations against Vagner in

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Special Operations against Vagner in

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Sudan uh with the support of the

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Sudan uh with the support of the

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Sudanese Armed Forces so any work could

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Sudanese Armed Forces so any work could

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become a proxy war if it if it um ra

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become a proxy war if it if it um ra

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rages on long enough and if basically um

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rages on long enough and if basically um

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a lot of people see interest in making

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a lot of people see interest in making

it

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so thank you uh uh re uh for you know

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so thank you uh uh re uh for you know

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peing through that onion and layers of

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peing through that onion and layers of

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uh of actors in this uh conflict again

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uh of actors in this uh conflict again

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something that I noticed is very little

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something that I noticed is very little

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understood uh even with policymakers I

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understood uh even with policymakers I

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talked to who I assumed would know uh

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talked to who I assumed would know uh

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more uh it turned out like even

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more uh it turned out like even

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explaining who the players are uh is a

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explaining who the players are uh is a

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real challenge um when it comes to Sudan

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real challenge um when it comes to Sudan

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uh as simple as it might may sound to us

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uh as simple as it might may sound to us

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um to many of the international actors

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um to many of the international actors

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it's indeed a very uh

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it's indeed a very uh

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challenging um

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challenging um

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want to grasp so uh at this point I

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want to grasp so uh at this point I

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would like to actually uh ask all our

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would like to actually uh ask all our

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speakers to turn on their cameras and um

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speakers to turn on their cameras and um

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I would like to Circle back to we am uh

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I would like to Circle back to we am uh

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at this point uh please we am um I will

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at this point uh please we am um I will

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repeat the question I asked of you uh

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repeat the question I asked of you uh

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which is the war in Sudan and you know

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which is the war in Sudan and you know

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like every uh war that ever took place

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like every uh war that ever took place

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anywhere in our

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anywhere in our

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planets usually okay I hope you hear me

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planets usually okay I hope you hear me

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well now

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well now

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yes H it affects different groups

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yes H it affects different groups

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differently what is the effect of the

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differently what is the effect of the

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last 14 months on women on LGBT on

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last 14 months on women on LGBT on

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vulnerable communities and historically

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vulnerable communities and historically

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marginalized communities across Sudan uh

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marginalized communities across Sudan uh

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okay okay uh as I said before and no one

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okay okay uh as I said before and no one

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hear me I'm sorry for my technical issue

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hear me I'm sorry for my technical issue

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I'm going to start with two stories one

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I'm going to start with two stories one

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of them is Bash Basher his name is Bash

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of them is Bash Basher his name is Bash

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was his name is is Basher he's been

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was his name is is Basher he's been

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killed uh Yesterday by the rsf militia

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killed uh Yesterday by the rsf militia

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because he's serving food and they

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because he's serving food and they

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didn't allowed anyone to even bury him

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didn't allowed anyone to even bury him

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and another one tawa tawa she's my

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and another one tawa tawa she's my

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friend and today we supposed to have our

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friend and today we supposed to have our

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aniversary anniversary for 14 years of

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aniversary anniversary for 14 years of

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friendship she lost her life because the

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friendship she lost her life because the

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lack of oxygen uh may Allah is their

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lack of oxygen uh may Allah is their

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soul in peace uh and all the souls we

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soul in peace uh and all the souls we

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lost because the kidnapping raping

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lost because the kidnapping raping

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um and killed an unsafe born that

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um and killed an unsafe born that

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leading us to the the the different

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leading us to the the the different

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situation and the different group you

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situation and the different group you

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say uh you mentioned before I'm going to

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say uh you mentioned before I'm going to

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say like a quick B uh the discrimination

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say like a quick B uh the discrimination

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against que people uh this war stoping

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against que people uh this war stoping

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hermone medic U medicine for the

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hermone medic U medicine for the

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transgender people and all the

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transgender people and all the

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vulnerable sexual group facing

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vulnerable sexual group facing

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harassment uh internally from the

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harassment uh internally from the

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different community and outside

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different community and outside

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especially by the organiz or

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especially by the organiz or

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International Organization they should

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International Organization they should

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help them they facing all the harassment

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help them they facing all the harassment

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and the sexual and reproductive health

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and the sexual and reproductive health

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and lack of senary bath and the lack of

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and lack of senary bath and the lack of

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Clean Water okay and now we lost or uh

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Clean Water okay and now we lost or uh

there's

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there's

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there's

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219,000 rant women facing death and rape

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219,000 rant women facing death and rape

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and unsafe

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and unsafe

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bir uh we we need to ask from from the

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bir uh we we need to ask from from the

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international humanitarian Aid

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international humanitarian Aid

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especially humanitarian Aid to

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especially humanitarian Aid to

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generalizing the humanitarian Aid we

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generalizing the humanitarian Aid we

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need the C but we need different

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need the C but we need different

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solution and if they want to do that

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solution and if they want to do that

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they should to communicate with the

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they should to communicate with the

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Grassroots movement not dealing just

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Grassroots movement not dealing just

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with the government it's not even being

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with the government it's not even being

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with the people in the in the shelter

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with the people in the in the shelter

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house but unfortunately the government

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house but unfortunately the government

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let uh they send them out of the shelter

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let uh they send them out of the shelter

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houses and they've been in the street

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houses and they've been in the street

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without food without anything and as Dre

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without food without anything and as Dre

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says this is the this world it's against

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says this is the this world it's against

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us as personal it's against us thank you

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us as personal it's against us thank you

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mamed thank you very much uh we am and

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mamed thank you very much uh we am and

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um yes I would like to um to actually

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um yes I would like to um to actually

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Circle back to the question of

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Circle back to the question of

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International Community um and the um

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International Community um and the um

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the response or lag thereof um and I

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the response or lag thereof um and I

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would like you all to just you know

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would like you all to just you know

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again why why is the US not acting um

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again why why is the US not acting um

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the way it should be acting or is able

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the way it should be acting or is able

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evidently to act uh in response to

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evidently to act uh in response to

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Sudan um through the right resolutions

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Sudan um through the right resolutions

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the right policies uh why is the EU uh

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the right policies uh why is the EU uh

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not um prioritizing Sudan or um the

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not um prioritizing Sudan or um the

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crisis that it's going through even

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crisis that it's going through even

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though it will have a very direct impact

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though it will have a very direct impact

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impact on the EU um especially the

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impact on the EU um especially the

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European States biggest anxiety

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European States biggest anxiety

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immigration is um is certainly present

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immigration is um is certainly present

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uh with the Sudan conflict uh as you

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uh with the Sudan conflict uh as you

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know the number of U the number of

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know the number of U the number of

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displaced grows so uh will the number of

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displaced grows so uh will the number of

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those arriving to Europe uh will

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those arriving to Europe uh will

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increase why are we not seeing

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increase why are we not seeing

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appropriate um reactions or

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appropriate um reactions or

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interventions I would like to start with

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interventions I would like to start with

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uh with dream on this one um and

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uh with dream on this one um and

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specifically to address the Us Part as

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specifically to address the Us Part as

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an American it's important to me to

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an American it's important to me to

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understand what is going on and why are

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understand what is going on and why are

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we not how it took more than you know

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we not how it took more than you know

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almost a year to get an anoy uh

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almost a year to get an anoy uh

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appointed for this purpose what is going

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appointed for this purpose what is going

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yes uh I think you have to start my

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yes uh I think you have to start my

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camera or help you start my camera I

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camera or help you start my camera I

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think um I really want to be very

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think um I really want to be very

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specific when it comes to you know

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specific when it comes to you know

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Western countries in in general and I'm

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Western countries in in general and I'm

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also going to talk about the US I think

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also going to talk about the US I think

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for the for the West in general it's

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for the for the West in general it's

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just the way they do diplomacy now and

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just the way they do diplomacy now and

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especially the US the US doesn't has

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especially the US the US doesn't has

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been de prioritizing diplomacy of course

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been de prioritizing diplomacy of course

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for the sake of you know um not going to

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for the sake of you know um not going to

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say militarization but securitization of

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say militarization but securitization of

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different of of the way they do

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different of of the way they do

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diplomacy and of and this has been

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diplomacy and of and this has been

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documented by many you know us

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documented by many you know us

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intellectuals and so on um but the way

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intellectuals and so on um but the way

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they deal with many countries you know

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they deal with many countries you know

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like Sudan is they Outsource diplomacy

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like Sudan is they Outsource diplomacy

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so they Outsource it to their allies and

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so they Outsource it to their allies and

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their allies um and their friends in the

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their allies um and their friends in the

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region happen to be you know the gulf

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region happen to be you know the gulf

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countries mainly uh so UAE and and and

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countries mainly uh so UAE and and and

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Saudi Arabia um and UA the UAE because

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Saudi Arabia um and UA the UAE because

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of its uh money and also because of its

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of its uh money and also because of its

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soft power uh you know it has been of

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soft power uh you know it has been of

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course investing a lot in like think

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course investing a lot in like think

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tanks and you know and and the Arts and

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tanks and you know and and the Arts and

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so on it has been so it has really you

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so on it has been so it has really you

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know um increased its ability to become

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know um increased its ability to become

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an ally and its ability to have kind of

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an ally and its ability to have kind of

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an impact uh so it so yeah like I said

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an impact uh so it so yeah like I said

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the US is outsourcing its diplomacy to

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the US is outsourcing its diplomacy to

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its allies and expecting them kind of to

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its allies and expecting them kind of to

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do this work um with the same values you

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do this work um with the same values you

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know know not not taking into

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know know not not taking into

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consideration that sometimes when your

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consideration that sometimes when your

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allies themselves you know especially

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allies themselves you know especially

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the UAE are part of the conflict and are

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the UAE are part of the conflict and are

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problematic so right now we continue to

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problematic so right now we continue to

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press you know on the US and and other

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press you know on the US and and other

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countries and telling them that you know

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countries and telling them that you know

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um you have to continue putting pressure

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um you have to continue putting pressure

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on the UAE but a lot is involved you

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on the UAE but a lot is involved you

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know the UAE is really just um impacting

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know the UAE is really just um impacting

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and influencing a lot of politics around

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and influencing a lot of politics around

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the world uh you know and um just so

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the world uh you know and um just so

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many things happening where they they

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many things happening where they they

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invite politicians to do lectures they

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invite politicians to do lectures they

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are investing a lot of money and

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are investing a lot of money and

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resources to make sure that a lot of uh

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resources to make sure that a lot of uh

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that um a lot of countries are basically

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that um a lot of countries are basically

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always that they always have the

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always that they always have the

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interest of the UAE um the other thing

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interest of the UAE um the other thing

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that I also want to mention is um

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that I also want to mention is um

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there's a lot of um misinformation and

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there's a lot of um misinformation and

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actually I would call it disinformation

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actually I would call it disinformation

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when it comes to Sudan and a lot of this

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when it comes to Sudan and a lot of this

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has seeped into um this the this the the

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has seeped into um this the this the the

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US government so right now you do have

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US government so right now you do have

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um you know senior level diplomats

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um you know senior level diplomats

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within the US government who have really

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within the US government who have really

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bought into this disinformation campaign

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bought into this disinformation campaign

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uh that is being uh spread by the rsf

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uh that is being uh spread by the rsf

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and its allies you know indicating that

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and its allies you know indicating that

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this is you know a terrorist Army all

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this is you know a terrorist Army all

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its supporters are terrorists and they

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its supporters are terrorists and they

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have to be fought and and the only way

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have to be fought and and the only way

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to save Sudan is to basically bring this

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to save Sudan is to basically bring this

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you know um some politicians you know

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you know um some politicians you know

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who claimed that they represent the

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who claimed that they represent the

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Sudanese people um and yeah so

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Sudanese people um and yeah so

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unfortunately this disinformation has

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unfortunately this disinformation has

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been sold because a lot of money again

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been sold because a lot of money again

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is invested uh you know into making it

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is invested uh you know into making it

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into making it happen and it's making it

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into making it happen and it's making it

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very difficult uh for the diplomats to

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very difficult uh for the diplomats to

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engage with any forces outside the

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engage with any forces outside the

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forces that continue to claim that they

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forces that continue to claim that they

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are the legitimate force that represent

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are the legitimate force that represent

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the people of Sudan thank

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the people of Sudan thank

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you wow I would like your your reaction

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you wow I would like your your reaction

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to that hammed how do you how do you

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to that hammed how do you how do you

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view um that um is it is it working is

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view um that um is it is it working is

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really the characterization as a a

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really the characterization as a a

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terrorist Army of islamist versus you

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terrorist Army of islamist versus you

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know uh the other um uh kind of

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know uh the other um uh kind of

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terrorist terrorist militia uh genocidal

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terrorist terrorist militia uh genocidal

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militia is that narrative uh present in

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militia is that narrative uh present in

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in your whole the HS of powers you are

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in your whole the HS of powers you are

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uh you know more intimately familiar

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uh you know more intimately familiar

with

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with

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with

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I think there's there's there's a lot of

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I think there's there's there's a lot of

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confusion uh from from from from the

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confusion uh from from from from the

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different uh International uh policy

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different uh International uh policy

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makers a because I think they have

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makers a because I think they have

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always had this very um you know

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always had this very um you know

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problematic and shallow engagement with

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problematic and shallow engagement with

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Sudan which depends on either dealing

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Sudan which depends on either dealing

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with the military leaders because they

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with the military leaders because they

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hold the guns and because of uh the very

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hold the guns and because of uh the very

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securitized kind of approach that just

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securitized kind of approach that just

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spoke about also or like other military

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spoke about also or like other military

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leaders or political Elites who come in

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leaders or political Elites who come in

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conventional uh structures that are easy

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conventional uh structures that are easy

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to deal with and that are you know they

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to deal with and that are you know they

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speak the language of international

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speak the language of international

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actors and and so on uh so this is one

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actors and and so on uh so this is one

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of the you know fundamental and you know

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of the you know fundamental and you know

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reoccurring issues that hinder uh proper

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reoccurring issues that hinder uh proper

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diplomatic engagement uh and then with

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diplomatic engagement uh and then with

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the war there's the war that's happening

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the war there's the war that's happening

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on the ground and then then there is

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on the ground and then then there is

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also the war a war of narratives and

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also the war a war of narratives and

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everyone wants to define the war in a

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everyone wants to define the war in a

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specific way uh I mean engaging with

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specific way uh I mean engaging with

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different uh policy makers International

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different uh policy makers International

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uh from different countries and so on

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uh from different countries and so on

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yes I can see some buying into a

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yes I can see some buying into a

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specific narrative uh particularly I

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specific narrative uh particularly I

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think the idea that the biggest fear is

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think the idea that the biggest fear is

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the return of the islamist uh if the

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the return of the islamist uh if the

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military is continues being empowered

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military is continues being empowered

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and and so on uh and then others you

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and and so on uh and then others you

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know uh seeing the other way around and

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know uh seeing the other way around and

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so on but I think there's

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so on but I think there's

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there's all of these narratives are

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there's all of these narratives are

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partially true there's some truth to

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partially true there's some truth to

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everything that and that's why I say

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everything that and that's why I say

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it's it's multifaceted like the RO

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it's it's multifaceted like the RO

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support forces are attacking civilians

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support forces are attacking civilians

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in a on a very personal level uh they

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in a on a very personal level uh they

are

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are

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are

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you know committing all these atrocities

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you know committing all these atrocities

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that is important to be said and to be

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that is important to be said and to be

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documented and and so on um the

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documented and and so on um the

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influence of the islamist on the Army is

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influence of the islamist on the Army is

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happening and it's important to be uh

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happening and it's important to be uh

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you know thought about and so on and I

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you know thought about and so on and I

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think in the International Community

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think in the International Community

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cannot engage properly without engaging

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cannot engage properly without engaging

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with a wide range of U civilians who

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with a wide range of U civilians who

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would bring in all of these different

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would bring in all of these different

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views that need to be taken into account

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views that need to be taken into account

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when thinking about the peace process

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when thinking about the peace process

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and I think that's why one of the key

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and I think that's why one of the key

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issues that we have been trying to

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issues that we have been trying to

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Advocate is that you know the

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Advocate is that you know the

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International Community tries to engage

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International Community tries to engage

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with Sudan and they keep on saying that

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with Sudan and they keep on saying that

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we are engaging with civilians and so on

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we are engaging with civilians and so on

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but when they engage with civilians they

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but when they engage with civilians they

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engage with specific Elites in the

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engage with specific Elites in the

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current context with the group called

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current context with the group called

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tum headed by the former prime minister

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tum headed by the former prime minister

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uh abam and so on and I'm not saying

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uh abam and so on and I'm not saying

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exclude them and don't talk to them but

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exclude them and don't talk to them but

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do not treat them like the only

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do not treat them like the only

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legitimate representatives of the

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legitimate representatives of the

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Sudanese um civilians when they have

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Sudanese um civilians when they have

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very little legitimacy inside the

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very little legitimacy inside the

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country they have more legitimacy with

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country they have more legitimacy with

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you know International actors and and

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you know International actors and and

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and foreign Avenues and and so on but

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and foreign Avenues and and so on but

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their legitimacy inside the country is

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their legitimacy inside the country is

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is is very much uh has been damaged for

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is is very much uh has been damaged for

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for years now so I think having a better

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for years now so I think having a better

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approach and being able to understand

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approach and being able to understand

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what the world is and and being able to

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what the world is and and being able to

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you know grasp all these different

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you know grasp all these different

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narratives and how to tackle requires

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narratives and how to tackle requires

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proper engagement that starts with

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proper engagement that starts with

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engaging with the right

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engaging with the right

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actors very interesting and just to

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actors very interesting and just to

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piggy back on your your comment I would

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piggy back on your your comment I would

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like to um to ask to throw back a

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like to um to ask to throw back a

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question again to you who are who do you

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question again to you who are who do you

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think are the other uh civilian

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think are the other uh civilian

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Representatives that could be spoken to

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Representatives that could be spoken to

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uh you know if

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uh you know if

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not because I do get this

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not because I do get this

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question so please so they have been

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question so please so they have been

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different I mean it it depends on what

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different I mean it it depends on what

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questions are you asking so now a lot of

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questions are you asking so now a lot of

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there have been a lot of discussions

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there have been a lot of discussions

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about the humanitarian response and the

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about the humanitarian response and the

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humanitarian responders on the ground

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humanitarian responders on the ground

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and so on and then we had a recent uh

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and so on and then we had a recent uh

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conference in Paris for for pledging and

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conference in Paris for for pledging and

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and so on on on the side there was a a

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and so on on on the side there was a a

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civil society uh seminar and and and so

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civil society uh seminar and and and so

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on that brought political leaders and

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on that brought political leaders and

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not humanitarian responders on the

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not humanitarian responders on the

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ground uh when the emergency response

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ground uh when the emergency response

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rooms who have been the front line of

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rooms who have been the front line of

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the humanitarian response as for the

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the humanitarian response as for the

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past year and so on are very much active

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past year and so on are very much active

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are doing the work that they need to do

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are doing the work that they need to do

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um well doing more than the work that

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um well doing more than the work that

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they should be doing actually

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they should be doing actually

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shouldering the inter the whole

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shouldering the inter the whole

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humanitarian response on their own so

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humanitarian response on their own so

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there is the human emergency response uh

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there is the human emergency response uh

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rooms and they are not all called the

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rooms and they are not all called the

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emergency response rooms but they're

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emergency response rooms but they're

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different uh civilian Le uh Mutual Aid

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different uh civilian Le uh Mutual Aid

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initiatives that are operating uh all

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initiatives that are operating uh all

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all over Sudan there is the resistance

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all over Sudan there is the resistance

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committees who have been um you know

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committees who have been um you know

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leading on the pro-democracy

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leading on the pro-democracy

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mobilization for the past five years

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mobilization for the past five years

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obviously now the change of

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obviously now the change of

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circumstances their priorities have

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circumstances their priorities have

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changed and focusing more into the um

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changed and focusing more into the um

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more on the humanitarian side but the

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more on the humanitarian side but the

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political agenda and pro democracy

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political agenda and pro democracy

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agenda are very much alive there are

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agenda are very much alive there are

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various Civil Society groups including

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various Civil Society groups including

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University uh initiatives that have come

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University uh initiatives that have come

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out throughout the past few months um in

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out throughout the past few months um in

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the new uh centers of displacement uh

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the new uh centers of displacement uh

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now in Cala in Nairobi uh and so on

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now in Cala in Nairobi uh and so on

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there are different Civil Society groups

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there are different Civil Society groups

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that are trying to you know get

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that are trying to you know get

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different uh initiatives up and up and

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different uh initiatives up and up and

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running however these initiatives are

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running however these initiatives are

not

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not

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not

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as uh you know sharp and well put

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as uh you know sharp and well put

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together like initiatives that have come

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together like initiatives that have come

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from tum for instance because tum is

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from tum for instance because tum is

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being funded by the Internet by

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being funded by the Internet by

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International um actors and uh they have

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International um actors and uh they have

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been empowered to get hop on planes and

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been empowered to get hop on planes and

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travel to uh

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travel to uh

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different cities to Advocate and so on

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different cities to Advocate and so on

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so there isn't a single conventional

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so there isn't a single conventional

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organized uh structured group that I

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organized uh structured group that I

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could point you to but there are so many

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could point you to but there are so many

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smaller groups uh that if empowered and

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smaller groups uh that if empowered and

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if um allow the seat at at the table

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if um allow the seat at at the table

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would bring a lot more than with El

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would bring a lot more than with El

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political Elites could do thank you

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political Elites could do thank you

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hammed uh we have about 10 minutes left

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hammed uh we have about 10 minutes left

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at for of this portion of the panel and

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at for of this portion of the panel and

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I would like to squeeze in two questions

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I would like to squeeze in two questions

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to our speakers in this time uh but

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to our speakers in this time uh but

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first of all I want to give just context

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first of all I want to give just context

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to our listeners who may not be familiar

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to our listeners who may not be familiar

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with the emergency rooms and resistance

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with the emergency rooms and resistance

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committee resistance committees are uh

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committee resistance committees are uh

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youth groups that uh for the past five

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youth groups that uh for the past five

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years have actually been the de facto um

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years have actually been the de facto um

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drivers of the democratic movement uh

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drivers of the democratic movement uh

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but who uh had to turn themselves into

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but who uh had to turn themselves into

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um the de facto aid providers uh during

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um the de facto aid providers uh during

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this war and conflict in Sudan um so

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this war and conflict in Sudan um so

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democracy activists and humanitarian

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democracy activists and humanitarian

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have been filling their humanitarian uh

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have been filling their humanitarian uh

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Gap in Sudan for the past 14 month um

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Gap in Sudan for the past 14 month um

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again access of Aid uh and access for

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again access of Aid uh and access for

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international organization is nearly

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international organization is nearly

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non-existent in Sudan um and uh these

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non-existent in Sudan um and uh these

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groups have been filling that Gap and

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groups have been filling that Gap and

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keeping Sudan from descending into full

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keeping Sudan from descending into full

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uh fledged famine and full-fledged um

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uh fledged famine and full-fledged um

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chaos uh so uh kudus to these young

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chaos uh so uh kudus to these young

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women and men all over Sudan uh leading

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women and men all over Sudan uh leading

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that important work and speaking of that

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that important work and speaking of that

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I want to actually turn to our um uh

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I want to actually turn to our um uh

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speaker we am to uh shed light on some

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speaker we am to uh shed light on some

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of the work being done by um by these

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of the work being done by um by these

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groups and by these activist coalitions

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groups and by these activist coalitions

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on uh on the needs for women um uh in

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on uh on the needs for women um uh in

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particular in Sudan right now again the

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particular in Sudan right now again the

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war does not affect everybody equally

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war does not affect everybody equally

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and some groups experience it harsher

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and some groups experience it harsher

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than others so I would like to see what

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than others so I would like to see what

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work is being uh hear from you what work

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work is being uh hear from you what work

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is being done uh and what could be more

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is being done uh and what could be more

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could be done to

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could be done to

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support I'm sorry Muhammad because

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support I'm sorry Muhammad because

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because we are limited of time I'm going

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because we are limited of time I'm going

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to say something before go to the

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to say something before go to the

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emergency room we should to give a

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emergency room we should to give a

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highlight this War uh affecting an woman

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highlight this War uh affecting an woman

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in systematic rape there up to 1,000

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in systematic rape there up to 1,000

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case rape being documented and this not

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case rape being documented and this not

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actual number and this systematic rate

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actual number and this systematic rate

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being filmed and published on Facebook

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being filmed and published on Facebook

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or social media platform by the rsf

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or social media platform by the rsf

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Malaysia and this rap is starting from

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Malaysia and this rap is starting from

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12 years old as a children and one of

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12 years old as a children and one of

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those children being uh being pregnant

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those children being uh being pregnant

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and give birth now after when year this

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and give birth now after when year this

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war started and there is a lot of uran

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war started and there is a lot of uran

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children they they have no houses no

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children they they have no houses no

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families and even no IDs uh back to the

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families and even no IDs uh back to the

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emergency room um they are

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emergency room um they are

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heroes thousand of them working for

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heroes thousand of them working for

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nothing just to helping people they

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nothing just to helping people they

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being killed being arrested being

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being killed being arrested being

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kidnapping and they provide water

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kidnapping and they provide water

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provide the r protocol we lost it from

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provide the r protocol we lost it from

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the International Community no one give

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the International Community no one give

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us and there's a big lack and big

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us and there's a big lack and big

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problem to receive money donation uh to

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problem to receive money donation uh to

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Sudan because the bank uh system and

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Sudan because the bank uh system and

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Muhammad can say a lot about that and uh

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Muhammad can say a lot about that and uh

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they collecting money they try to

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they collecting money they try to

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provide in food and even there is no

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provide in food and even there is no

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education now in Sudan all the schools

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education now in Sudan all the schools

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it's a shelter rooms shelter places for

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it's a shelter rooms shelter places for

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the people and those people even uh we

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the people and those people even uh we

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film them a lot of them a lot of time

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film them a lot of them a lot of time

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but even it's not that safe to talk

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but even it's not that safe to talk

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about them but those those guys they are

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about them but those those guys they are

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available on social media they work not

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available on social media they work not

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just the government work more than

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just the government work more than

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government work especially in Al

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government work especially in Al

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therefore even to build a house against

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therefore even to build a house against

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the rain and uh work with the people who

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the rain and uh work with the people who

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have cancer working with the old people

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have cancer working with the old people

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and try to um displace people to a safe

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and try to um displace people to a safe

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space uh to Safe places and they are

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space uh to Safe places and they are

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heroes and that what we asked from the

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heroes and that what we asked from the

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International Community to deal with the

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International Community to deal with the

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Grassroots movement they know and they

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Grassroots movement they know and they

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work for five years now it's not just

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work for five years now it's not just

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starting with the war it's happening

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starting with the war it's happening

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with a five years ago starting with the

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with a five years ago starting with the

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revolution started and when this War

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revolution started and when this War

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start in the first day they be they

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start in the first day they be they

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shifting their work the political active

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shifting their work the political active

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to Wi virginy room actors uh that's all

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to Wi virginy room actors uh that's all

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about them but even we if we talk about

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about them but even we if we talk about

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them till tomorrow will never finish the

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them till tomorrow will never finish the

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her the hero's story of them thank

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her the hero's story of them thank

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you thank you we am and um yes I think

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you thank you we am and um yes I think

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the point to take away from that there

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the point to take away from that there

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is no lack of people to talk to uh in

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is no lack of people to talk to uh in

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Sudan uh and people who are meaningful

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Sudan uh and people who are meaningful

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act you know meaningful actors doing

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act you know meaningful actors doing

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good work on the ground in Sudan so uh

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good work on the ground in Sudan so uh

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the excuse that this is the only people

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the excuse that this is the only people

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we can talk to we are able to talk to is

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we can talk to we are able to talk to is

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really is really lame one uh there is no

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really is really lame one uh there is no

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lack of people um and groups that uh the

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lack of people um and groups that uh the

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International Community can engage with

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International Community can engage with

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um I would like to now turn to uh

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um I would like to now turn to uh

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to we talked about all the negatives uh

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to we talked about all the negatives uh

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all what is not being done what is being

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all what is not being done what is being

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done who is intervening uh to stop this

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done who is intervening uh to stop this

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um atrocity in Sudan uh what players are

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um atrocity in Sudan uh what players are

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playing a positive role right

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playing a positive role right

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now just to also reiterate what uh weam

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now just to also reiterate what uh weam

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said um a lot of the humanitarian effort

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said um a lot of the humanitarian effort

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is led by the community you know and I

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is led by the community you know and I

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think even if the war stops tomorrow the

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think even if the war stops tomorrow the

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community will continue to be um at the

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community will continue to be um at the

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center of this you know and this is

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center of this you know and this is

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really a testament to one thing that she

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really a testament to one thing that she

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and I want to reiterate it is that

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and I want to reiterate it is that

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people have managed to find ways to

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people have managed to find ways to

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govern themselves communities that are

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govern themselves communities that are

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in neighborhoods that are affected by

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in neighborhoods that are affected by

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war that are completely cut off from any

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war that are completely cut off from any

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Services have found ways to govern

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Services have found ways to govern

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themselves and reorganize their lives

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themselves and reorganize their lives

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they've started soup kitchens to so they

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they've started soup kitchens to so they

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can all at least eat one meal a day

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can all at least eat one meal a day

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they've started classes for children

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they've started classes for children

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they have found ways to protect each

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they have found ways to protect each

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other and so many mechanisms basically

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other and so many mechanisms basically

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to to ensure that the community is

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to to ensure that the community is

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healthy is safe and continues to be

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healthy is safe and continues to be

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together so definitely the the local

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together so definitely the the local

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committees have shown a lot of bravery

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committees have shown a lot of bravery

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and a lot of uh and a lot of work a lot

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and a lot of uh and a lot of work a lot

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of the funding I also want to emphasize

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of the funding I also want to emphasize

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that a lot of the funding that goes into

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that a lot of the funding that goes into

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feeding and making sure that people are

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feeding and making sure that people are

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are doing well um actually comes from

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are doing well um actually comes from

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Sudanese people inside Sudan and in the

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Sudanese people inside Sudan and in the

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diaspora so a lot of concerts a lot of

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diaspora so a lot of concerts a lot of

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you know um people basically paying

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you know um people basically paying

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money on a daily basis a lot of

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money on a daily basis a lot of

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campaigns that people donate to on a

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campaigns that people donate to on a

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regular bases and um so right now a lot

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regular bases and um so right now a lot

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of the humanitarian Aid is actually

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of the humanitarian Aid is actually

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sourced by the community that is

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sourced by the community that is

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supporting each other I also want to

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supporting each other I also want to

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emphasize on the role of like women's

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emphasize on the role of like women's

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groups you know um um that have been

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groups you know um um that have been

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doing tremendous work uh to shed light

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doing tremendous work uh to shed light

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on the situation um you know uh one of

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on the situation um you know uh one of

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them for example I would start with you

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them for example I would start with you

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know sua who leads the the the the the

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know sua who leads the the the the the

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unit basically on combating violence

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unit basically on combating violence

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against women and children she has been

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against women and children she has been

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very brave it's a difficult situation

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very brave it's a difficult situation

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but she has continued to come out to to

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but she has continued to come out to to

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to give us information about the sexual

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to give us information about the sexual

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violence that is happening against women

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violence that is happening against women

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and so many others you know local

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and so many others you know local

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initiatives um you know that such as

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initiatives um you know that such as

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initiatives to stop sexual violence um

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initiatives to stop sexual violence um

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has been also trying to document and not

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has been also trying to document and not

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only trying to document document and

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only trying to document document and

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provide psychosocial support and also

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provide psychosocial support and also

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provide uh uh money for the families to

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provide uh uh money for the families to

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be able to move from the place where

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be able to move from the place where

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this violation happened to a safer place

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this violation happened to a safer place

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just so the the women are able to heal

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just so the the women are able to heal

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and are able to get the services that

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and are able to get the services that

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they need and this work has been

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they need and this work has been

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tremendous it's a lot of building an

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tremendous it's a lot of building an

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infrastructure to make sure that

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infrastructure to make sure that

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everything is into place to make sure

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everything is into place to make sure

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that they are people that are able to do

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that they are people that are able to do

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this kind of work and uh so a lot of

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this kind of work and uh so a lot of

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people are are donating their time and

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people are are donating their time and

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resources to be a to make sure that the

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resources to be a to make sure that the

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survivors are given another chance and

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survivors are given another chance and

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that they are taken to a safer place um

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that they are taken to a safer place um

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women groups that are also trying to to

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women groups that are also trying to to

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do work at the political level I also

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do work at the political level I also

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applaud them because they are continuing

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applaud them because they are continuing

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to fight you know as a system I mean war

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to fight you know as a system I mean war

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is also the the optimum you know

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is also the the optimum you know

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militarization you know so women are not

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militarization you know so women are not

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really present basically because uh once

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really present basically because uh once

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there's War you if you don't have a gun

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there's War you if you don't have a gun

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you don't have an opinion right so but

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you don't have an opinion right so but

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they are continuing to press and they're

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they are continuing to press and they're

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continuing to to to Really Trying to

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continuing to to to Really Trying to

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Find ways to talk to the sides of the

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Find ways to talk to the sides of the

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conflict and to find ways to be part of

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conflict and to find ways to be part of

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the ceasefire committees when they were

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the ceasefire committees when they were

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happening and to find ways to just kind

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happening and to find ways to just kind

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of um you know just think about and

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of um you know just think about and

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visualize and you Pathway to peace and

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visualize and you Pathway to peace and

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um through online discussions through

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um through online discussions through

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different discussions that are happening

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different discussions that are happening

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so a lot of work is is is being done and

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so a lot of work is is is being done and

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and a lot of work is being done by women

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and a lot of work is being done by women

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and a lot of the humanitarian uh efforts

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and a lot of the humanitarian uh efforts

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are being led by the communities and we

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are being led by the communities and we

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have to applaud them for

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have to applaud them for

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that fantastic thank you so much re and

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that fantastic thank you so much re and

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we are at the top at the end of this

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we are at the top at the end of this

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portion of our panel but I really want

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portion of our panel but I really want

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to squeeze one last question and this

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to squeeze one last question and this

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time to hammed uh

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time to hammed uh

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please um uh in in a minute and a half

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please um uh in in a minute and a half

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uh tell us who is leading an

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uh tell us who is leading an

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intervention on on the uh state level um

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intervention on on the uh state level um

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not U not not in Sudan uh or Regional

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not U not not in Sudan uh or Regional

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actors leading intervention right now we

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actors leading intervention right now we

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know there is um The jeda Forum um and

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know there is um The jeda Forum um and

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we would like you to tell tell us more

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we would like you to tell tell us more

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about that and who is leading similar

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about that and who is leading similar

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positive initiatives to end the war in

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positive initiatives to end the war in

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Sudan sure uh so I think there has been

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Sudan sure uh so I think there has been

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internationally ATT tendency to allow

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internationally ATT tendency to allow

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the African Union and the Ard to lead on

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the African Union and the Ard to lead on

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the mediation and to lead on the

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the mediation and to lead on the

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resolving the situation in Sudan and I

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resolving the situation in Sudan and I

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think that is quite problematic because

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think that is quite problematic because

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these very institutions are implicated

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these very institutions are implicated

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in what's happening they are biased and

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in what's happening they are biased and

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they don't have neither the capacity nor

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they don't have neither the capacity nor

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the Integrity to do that uh and I think

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the Integrity to do that uh and I think

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the idea that you know the notion of

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the idea that you know the notion of

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African uh solutions to African problems

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African uh solutions to African problems

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is invalid here because this is a this

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is invalid here because this is a this

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is not an African War uh or an African

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is not an African War uh or an African

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issue there are many actors who are part

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issue there are many actors who are part

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of this who are not African uh so I

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of this who are not African uh so I

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think that that has been where most of

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think that that has been where most of

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the the issues in terms of the peace

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the the issues in terms of the peace

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process has been happening and why it's

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process has been happening and why it's

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been stooling and so on on the other

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been stooling and so on on the other

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side there's been the uh jeda platform

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side there's been the uh jeda platform

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which was convened by Saudi and the US

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which was convened by Saudi and the US

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and I think this was the only platform

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and I think this was the only platform

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that has gained traction it has been

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that has gained traction it has been

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helpful in leveraging you know u a bit

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helpful in leveraging you know u a bit

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of humanitarian uh resp Aid to get into

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of humanitarian uh resp Aid to get into

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the country to open some humanitarian

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the country to open some humanitarian

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corridors uh through that also uh

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corridors uh through that also uh

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internation actors were able to uh

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internation actors were able to uh

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secure very short peace Fires for their

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secure very short peace Fires for their

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interests uh I would have to say for

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interests uh I would have to say for

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evacuating specific un delegations

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evacuating specific un delegations

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specific groups and and and and and so

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specific groups and and and and and so

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on or diplomats and so on so I think

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on or diplomats and so on so I think

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that that that platform has potential to

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that that that platform has potential to

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work if more power and more um you know

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work if more power and more um you know

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more mediators and different

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more mediators and different

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International actors would come uh to

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International actors would come uh to

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that to that platform and support it and

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that to that platform and support it and

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and encourage it basically but also for

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and encourage it basically but also for

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civilians to be part of it because

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civilians to be part of it because

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keeping this cycle of you know engaging

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keeping this cycle of you know engaging

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with the military leaders uh only um to

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with the military leaders uh only um to

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solve the power and rewarding you know

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solve the power and rewarding you know

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Waring factions forwards and so is quite

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Waring factions forwards and so is quite

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problematic but I think that platform

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problematic but I think that platform

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has has all sorts of problems but has

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has has all sorts of problems but has

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potential and there there there's a lot

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potential and there there there's a lot

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to be done to get it uh

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to be done to get it uh

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working thank you Hamed and we will now

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working thank you Hamed and we will now

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turn into the uh Q&A portion of our

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turn into the uh Q&A portion of our

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panel I would like to remind all our

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panel I would like to remind all our

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viewers to use the um the Q and uh Q&A

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viewers to use the um the Q and uh Q&A

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uh section of our um Zoom webinar to

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uh section of our um Zoom webinar to

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post that question and please remember

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post that question and please remember

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to include your name your country and

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to include your name your country and

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affiliation so um with that I will turn

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affiliation so um with that I will turn

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into our very first question uh that

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into our very first question uh that

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came uh from alen [ __ ] from United

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came uh from alen [ __ ] from United

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Kingdom uh who uh

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Kingdom uh who uh

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asked who outside Sudan is feeling this

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asked who outside Sudan is feeling this

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war we partially covered that but I

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war we partially covered that but I

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would like to throw it to all of you um

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would like to throw it to all of you um

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question

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anyone I think R did a great job uh

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anyone I think R did a great job uh

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covering that earlier but just to

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covering that earlier but just to

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reiterate I think you know the biggest

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reiterate I think you know the biggest

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uh actor outside Sudan that is that has

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uh actor outside Sudan that is that has

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the biggest influence currently on the

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the biggest influence currently on the

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sustaining the war in Sudan is the UAE

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sustaining the war in Sudan is the UAE

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the United Arab amates then to a lesser

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the United Arab amates then to a lesser

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extent there are some other actors

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extent there are some other actors

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involved uh there's Russia there's

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involved uh there's Russia there's

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turkey there's Egypt there's

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turkey there's Egypt there's

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Iran there's uh

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Iran there's uh

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SOI different countries have different

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SOI different countries have different

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interests but I think at the at present

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interests but I think at the at present

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the main actor uh that that has been

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the main actor uh that that has been

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playing the largest po negative role is

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playing the largest po negative role is

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is

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is

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thees thank you hammed and we have

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thees thank you hammed and we have

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also I want to reiterate on what hammed

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also I want to reiterate on what hammed

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said and also mention that uh right now

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said and also mention that uh right now

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the rsf is um putting Al faser the

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the rsf is um putting Al faser the

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capital of North dfor State on Under

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capital of North dfor State on Under

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Siege and as you know the rsf controls

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Siege and as you know the rsf controls

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uh four states out of the five states in

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uh four states out of the five states in

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therefore four this is the last state

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therefore four this is the last state

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basically and as a result this not only

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basically and as a result this not only

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has it has like 1.2 million people but

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has it has like 1.2 million people but

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also an

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also an

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estimated um 500 to to 800,000 people

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estimated um 500 to to 800,000 people

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who have sought Refuge from other parts

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who have sought Refuge from other parts

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of their for so we're talking about at

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of their for so we're talking about at

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least two million people you know um in

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least two million people you know um in

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Al faser and the rsf has been attacking

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Al faser and the rsf has been attacking

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the city and trying to enter for the

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the city and trying to enter for the

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past uh you know few weeks and um it and

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past uh you know few weeks and um it and

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especially in the past 10 days they have

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especially in the past 10 days they have

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been doing it almost on a daily basis

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been doing it almost on a daily basis

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they have been launching a attacks and

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they have been launching a attacks and

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it just so happens that the their planes

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it just so happens that the their planes

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coming from the UAE to the specific

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coming from the UAE to the specific

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airport in chat that is supplying the

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airport in chat that is supplying the

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rsf with weapons almost every day over

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rsf with weapons almost every day over

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the last eight um uh eight days so um

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the last eight um uh eight days so um

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it's not a coincidence you know right

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it's not a coincidence you know right

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now the city could fall millions of

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now the city could fall millions of

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people are at risk and um the weapons

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people are at risk and um the weapons

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continue to come from the

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continue to come from the

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UAE all right actually re since you

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UAE all right actually re since you

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unmuted stay unmuted because this

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unmuted stay unmuted because this

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question is for you specifically from

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question is for you specifically from

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Brendan no University Montreal Canada um

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Brendan no University Montreal Canada um

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he's asking be you have explained that

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he's asking be you have explained that

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the war is being waged against the very

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the war is being waged against the very

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identity of Sudan and Sudanese people

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identity of Sudan and Sudanese people

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for what purpose exactly if destroying

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for what purpose exactly if destroying

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this identity is a political goal in

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this identity is a political goal in

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itself Beyond making money and looting

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itself Beyond making money and looting

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why why is it happen yes

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why why is it happen yes

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I mean it's you know it is um I'm trying

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I mean it's you know it is um I'm trying

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to give you a short answer because of

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to give you a short answer because of

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course it is um there is a longer answer

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course it is um there is a longer answer

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about the fact that Sudan itself I mean

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about the fact that Sudan itself I mean

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it is a colonial construct right it is a

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it is a colonial construct right it is a

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number of countries that were brought

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number of countries that were brought

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together you know by a colonial Force so

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together you know by a colonial Force so

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the country itself was never uh very

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the country itself was never uh very

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much um I would say um it it was never

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much um I would say um it it was never

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coherent it was never really well put

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coherent it was never really well put

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together uh not only of course because

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together uh not only of course because

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you know the the the col what the

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you know the the the col what the

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Imperial forces did but also because of

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Imperial forces did but also because of

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the postcolonial governments that

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the postcolonial governments that

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continue to fail uh but I think what is

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continue to fail uh but I think what is

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very interesting is that uh the whole

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very interesting is that uh the whole

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Narrative of the rsf right now under

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Narrative of the rsf right now under

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mouthpieces they continue to reiterate

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mouthpieces they continue to reiterate

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that this state does not represent them

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that this state does not represent them

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uh this identity does not represent them

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uh this identity does not represent them

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and they have shown a lot of disdain to

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and they have shown a lot of disdain to

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um a lot of the the things that we think

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um a lot of the the things that we think

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are uh very much to the needs at bring

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are uh very much to the needs at bring

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people together like the music for

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people together like the music for

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example that is broadcasted from the

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example that is broadcasted from the

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main you know umder man radio they have

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main you know umder man radio they have

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shown disdain to a lot of cultural uh

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shown disdain to a lot of cultural uh

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you know practices that we that were

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you know practices that we that were

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that are very much widespread across

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that are very much widespread across

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Sudan so um so it is definitely

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Sudan so um so it is definitely

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interesting to see that this is a force

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interesting to see that this is a force

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that has an an ideology that is against

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that has an an ideology that is against

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the identity of the state because they

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the identity of the state because they

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believe that it does not represent them

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believe that it does not represent them

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and that it represents certain

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and that it represents certain

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communities in Sudan and this is what

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communities in Sudan and this is what

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their their claim so what they are doing

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their their claim so what they are doing

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what they do want to do and this is um

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what they do want to do and this is um

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again reiterating the some of the things

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again reiterating the some of the things

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that I have heard them say over the past

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that I have heard them say over the past

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few months is that they want to take

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few months is that they want to take

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over the state and they want to um

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over the state and they want to um

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change the entire identity of the state

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change the entire identity of the state

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from the uh from the flag to the name to

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from the uh from the flag to the name to

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the uh to the to the mute to what we

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the uh to the to the mute to what we

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listen to to the to to to everything

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listen to to the to to to everything

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basically um I think

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basically um I think

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right now it's also important to note

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right now it's also important to note

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like just what I said earlier about the

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like just what I said earlier about the

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fact that the the nomadic groups that

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fact that the the nomadic groups that

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are largely you know in the rsf the

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are largely you know in the rsf the

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nomadic groups from Western Sudan have

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nomadic groups from Western Sudan have

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extensions in different parts of the sah

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extensions in different parts of the sah

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and it so happens that the nomadic

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and it so happens that the nomadic

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groups in the sah region are uh

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groups in the sah region are uh

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completely impoverished very poor living

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completely impoverished very poor living

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in places where where a lot where where

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in places where where a lot where where

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water is very sacred so they want a

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water is very sacred so they want a

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Homeland we're talking about people who

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Homeland we're talking about people who

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are minority in different countries uh

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are minority in different countries uh

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who are discriminated against uh who

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who are discriminated against uh who

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never felt home I mean in Niger for

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never felt home I mean in Niger for

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example they were kicked out a few years

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example they were kicked out a few years

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ago and they want a Homeland they want a

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ago and they want a Homeland they want a

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Homeland and Sudan has denial it has

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Homeland and Sudan has denial it has

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water it has uh it's it's different for

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water it has uh it's it's different for

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them it is definitely something that

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them it is definitely something that

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they want to fight for uh so I think

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they want to fight for uh so I think

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we're talking listener to explain a

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we're talking listener to explain a

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little bit uh the ethnic makeup of these

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little bit uh the ethnic makeup of these

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um of these uh yeah groups yes if you

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um of these uh yeah groups yes if you

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can I mean okay so generally the rsf the

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can I mean okay so generally the rsf the

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I would say the core groups that are

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I would say the core groups that are

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mobilized by the rsf they are uh

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mobilized by the rsf they are uh

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basically cattle herders you know from

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basically cattle herders you know from

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different parts of Western Sudan so they

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different parts of Western Sudan so they

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are nomadic groups basically you know

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are nomadic groups basically you know

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they uh hurt cows and cattle uh so those

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they uh hurt cows and cattle uh so those

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are the core groups that are represented

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are the core groups that are represented

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in the rsf and they are the groups that

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in the rsf and they are the groups that

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the RF has been mobilizing from like I

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the RF has been mobilizing from like I

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said the groups we're talking about

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said the groups we're talking about

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they're not restricted by Colonial

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they're not restricted by Colonial

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borders they're very much they are

01:08:57.120 --> 01:09:00.349 align:start position:0%

borders they're very much they are

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present all across the sah as well as

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present all across the sah as well as

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North Africa so you also find them in

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North Africa so you also find them in

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Libya you find them in Morocco you find

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Libya you find them in Morocco you find

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them and so on so um they don't believe

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them and so on so um they don't believe

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in borders they are their cousins

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in borders they are their cousins

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they're able to mobilize and this is why

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they're able to mobilize and this is why

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you it is not uh you know strange to

01:09:13.440 --> 01:09:15.229 align:start position:0%

you it is not uh you know strange to

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find people coming from Mali to fight

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find people coming from Mali to fight

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for the rsf because they're cousins and

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for the rsf because they're cousins and

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what brings them together is that like I

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what brings them together is that like I

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said they are minority groups in the

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said they are minority groups in the

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different countries and they are

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different countries and they are

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discriminated against and also the sah

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discriminated against and also the sah

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region has a huge problem when it comes

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region has a huge problem when it comes

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to Water Resources so we're talking

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to Water Resources so we're talking

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about people whose cattles are dying

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about people whose cattles are dying

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because they're going thirsty and they

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because they're going thirsty and they

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are thirsty themselves so we're so I

01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:39.510 align:start position:0%

are thirsty themselves so we're so I

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think yeah there are people that are

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think yeah there are people that are

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looking for a Homeland and this has been

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looking for a Homeland and this has been

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said and discussed again in many of the

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said and discussed again in many of the

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uh the conversations that we're hearing

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uh the conversations that we're hearing

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online by their mouthpieces that are

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online by their mouthpieces that are

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following very closely to understand

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following very closely to understand

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their motives and also to understand how

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their motives and also to understand how

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for them this is an existential War

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for them this is an existential War

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they're dying in large numbers but for

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they're dying in large numbers but for

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them this is a war that they will

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them this is a war that they will

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continue fighting until you know the

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continue fighting until you know the

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last basically member of their Community

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last basically member of their Community

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because they believe that um if they

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because they believe that um if they

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don't then uh a lot of people will turn

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don't then uh a lot of people will turn

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against them and they'll become targeted

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against them and they'll become targeted

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and so on so a lot of it is really right

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and so on so a lot of it is really right

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now is driven by fear of the unknown so

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now is driven by fear of the unknown so

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it is an existential War for them thank

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it is an existential War for them thank

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you um and just to explain some more for

01:10:25.320 --> 01:10:28.030 align:start position:0%

you um and just to explain some more for

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for those um unfamiliar with the bedwin

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for those um unfamiliar with the bedwin

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communities of Africa it's yes often

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communities of Africa it's yes often

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characterized as Arab um but uh I must

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characterized as Arab um but uh I must

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note that they don't really have

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note that they don't really have

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subscribe to Arab nationalist in the TR

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subscribe to Arab nationalist in the TR

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you know nationalism in the tradition

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you know nationalism in the tradition

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sense they are uh yes they find their

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sense they are uh yes they find their

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Roots uh they contrast their roots to

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Roots uh they contrast their roots to

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Arabia um an ethnic U makeup definitely

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Arabia um an ethnic U makeup definitely

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comes from that part but they are they

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comes from that part but they are they

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have largely been in in that region for

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have largely been in in that region for

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hundreds of year and don't really

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hundreds of year and don't really

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identify even within Arab countries and

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identify even within Arab countries and

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Arab nationalist States they uh are

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Arab nationalist States they uh are

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still Outsiders and minorities uh in a

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still Outsiders and minorities uh in a

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place like Egypt you will find the beds

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place like Egypt you will find the beds

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in sini completely isolated from the

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in sini completely isolated from the

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rest of the uh largely Arab Nation um

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rest of the uh largely Arab Nation um

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with that I would like to turn actually

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with that I would like to turn actually

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to another question uh very interesting

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to another question uh very interesting

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one from uh Patric uh nicolini professor

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one from uh Patric uh nicolini professor

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of history in and institutions of Africa

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of history in and institutions of Africa

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at the Catholic University in Milan uh

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at the Catholic University in Milan uh

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patris is asking uh could you tell us

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patris is asking uh could you tell us

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about a the role of China and two the

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about a the role of China and two the

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role of religious

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role of religious

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presences um you can take that on hammed

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presences um you can take that on hammed

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or any of

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or any of

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you I think hammed you probably would be

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you I think hammed you probably would be

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the most suited for this question

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the most suited for this question

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particular I think the the role of China

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particular I think the the role of China

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has been quite subtle and quite ever

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has been quite subtle and quite ever

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since the revolution started in in in

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since the revolution started in in in

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2018 and uh probably you know I think

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2018 and uh probably you know I think

it's

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it's

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it's

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it that has been the strategy all

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it that has been the strategy all

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through when there's political

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through when there's political

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instability and political changes and

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instability and political changes and

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Democratic processes and and so on that

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Democratic processes and and so on that

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is not where they like to operate so

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is not where they like to operate so

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they've had the obviously Chinese

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they've had the obviously Chinese

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businesses will continue running in the

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businesses will continue running in the

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country and so on but they had very

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country and so on but they had very

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minimal uh political engagement with the

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minimal uh political engagement with the

transitional

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transitional

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transitional

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Government after after the revolution

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Government after after the revolution

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unlike the very strong political ties

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unlike the very strong political ties

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that they had with the regime of Al

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that they had with the regime of Al

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Basher after the war they continued to

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Basher after the war they continued to

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play that uh very quiet and subtle kind

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play that uh very quiet and subtle kind

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of of role uh obviously it's also one of

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of of role uh obviously it's also one of

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the Chinese that they don't like to

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the Chinese that they don't like to

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engage in you know political matters uh

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engage in you know political matters uh

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in in in a very visible uh way uh and

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in in in a very visible uh way uh and

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their priority is to safeguard their

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their priority is to safeguard their

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businesses and to and their access to

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businesses and to and their access to

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you know the resources and the lands and

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you know the resources and the lands and

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the factories and everything they have

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the factories and everything they have

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in Sudan but also in the region um and

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in Sudan but also in the region um and

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it's very interesting that a lot of

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it's very interesting that a lot of

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Sudanese sorry Chinese businesses in

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Sudanese sorry Chinese businesses in

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various a have kept on running after the

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various a have kept on running after the

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war erupted they made sure that you know

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war erupted they made sure that you know

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these interests are safeguarded and so

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these interests are safeguarded and so

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on but on the political side I think

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on but on the political side I think

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they've had a very limited uh role and

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they've had a very limited uh role and

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they haven't sh sh any biases uh you

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they haven't sh sh any biases uh you

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know other towards rsf or shaf mainly to

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know other towards rsf or shaf mainly to

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make sure that they are safeguarding uh

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make sure that they are safeguarding uh

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you know the their business and their

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you know the their business and their

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influence their you know commercial

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influence their you know commercial

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influence uh in in that sense I think

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influence uh in in that sense I think

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when it comes to religion um obviously

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when it comes to religion um obviously

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as as mentioned the war has taken

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as as mentioned the war has taken

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Dimensions that go beyond the power

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Dimensions that go beyond the power

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struggle uh between between the Armed

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struggle uh between between the Armed

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Forces uh so so there there has been a

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Forces uh so so there there has been a

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lot of documented attacks specifically

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lot of documented attacks specifically

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on um religious minority minorities

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on um religious minority minorities

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Christians and copics and churches and

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Christians and copics and churches and

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and so on um but also the role of of of

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and so on um but also the role of of of

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political leaders and by extension uh I

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political leaders and by extension uh I

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would say more uh I don't use the word

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would say more uh I don't use the word

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traditional but more native uh leaders

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traditional but more native uh leaders

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and na Administration who have a very

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and na Administration who have a very

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religious kind of um you know identity

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religious kind of um you know identity

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to their to the to their roles and so on

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to their to the to their roles and so on

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and there have been a lot of um

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and there have been a lot of um

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manipulation uh and I think in most

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manipulation uh and I think in most

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cases by the rap support forces but also

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cases by the rap support forces but also

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in in many other uh places by by by the

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in in many other uh places by by by the

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Army and so on to get these uh leaders

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Army and so on to get these uh leaders

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to mobilize and to uh get more fighters

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to mobilize and to uh get more fighters

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to join these groups and and so on but

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to join these groups and and so on but

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then there have also been a few others

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then there have also been a few others

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who have been playing positive roles in

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who have been playing positive roles in

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terms of ADV vo ating for you know

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terms of ADV vo ating for you know

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social cohesion and peace and trying to

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social cohesion and peace and trying to

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get the protect the communities together

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get the protect the communities together

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and so on and I think it's it's very

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and so on and I think it's it's very

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much important when you think about the

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much important when you think about the

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police a peace process uh we think about

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police a peace process uh we think about

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how do you do we engage and you know

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how do you do we engage and you know

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include these um leaders who are have

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include these um leaders who are have

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very you know a lot of influence and

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very you know a lot of influence and

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Power on on their communities to make

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Power on on their communities to make

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sure that they're not being you know

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sure that they're not being you know

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pushed into um political manipulation of

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pushed into um political manipulation of

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of theing

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of theing

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factions thank you hammed our next

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factions thank you hammed our next

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question uh we you know have a lot of

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question uh we you know have a lot of

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questions already but yes please

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questions already but yes please

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continue submitting your questions and I

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continue submitting your questions and I

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will do my best to get through all of

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will do my best to get through all of

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them um uh our next question is from

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them um uh our next question is from

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Nadia Saka uh from United Kingdom I

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Nadia Saka uh from United Kingdom I

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think this is question more for you am

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think this is question more for you am

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uh Nadia says I read somewhere that this

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uh Nadia says I read somewhere that this

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that Sudan shows a successful story of

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that Sudan shows a successful story of

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local committees delivering Aid

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local committees delivering Aid

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um in Lo uh uh and ensuring Security in

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um in Lo uh uh and ensuring Security in

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local neighborhoods is this true could

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local neighborhoods is this true could

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they be uh the hope for peace and

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they be uh the hope for peace and

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stability in Sudan also to what extent

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stability in Sudan also to what extent

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could civil society and especially women

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could civil society and especially women

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L organizations Bridge uh bridge between

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L organizations Bridge uh bridge between

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the two sudans and even between the many

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the two sudans and even between the many

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fragmented societies now being created

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fragmented societies now being created

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inside of the one Sudan

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inside of the one Sudan

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so very multi-layer question so yes but

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so very multi-layer question so yes but

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I think there is one answer to give them

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I think there is one answer to give them

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the access to be in political

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the access to be in political

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participation if they've been in

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participation if they've been in

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political participation and they can't

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political participation and they can't

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talk to the International Community they

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talk to the International Community they

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can make a lot okay if I understand the

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can make a lot okay if I understand the

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question right I think I'm try to read

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question right I think I'm try to read

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it asking our women uh Le organizations

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it asking our women uh Le organizations

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and youthless organizations could be the

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and youthless organizations could be the

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answer to uh brid in these um okay I

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answer to uh brid in these um okay I

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think Muhammad we need to to make it

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think Muhammad we need to to make it

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clear the organization in Sudan now

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clear the organization in Sudan now

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during the war is not that systematic

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during the war is not that systematic

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organization it's a local movement and

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organization it's a local movement and

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local initiative that's why we call it

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local initiative that's why we call it

Grassroots

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Grassroots

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Grassroots

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movement they they see what the people

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movement they they see what the people

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need and they start initiative they

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need and they start initiative they

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start to Collective donation and they

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start to Collective donation and they

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work okay uh so so uh with that I turn

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work okay uh so so uh with that I turn

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to for a question from

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to for a question from

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farahani from Romania Farah is asking

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farahani from Romania Farah is asking

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who is covering the news in Sudan um and

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who is covering the news in Sudan um and

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uh as I as I hear that the reason we

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uh as I as I hear that the reason we

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don't know much about it is because the

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don't know much about it is because the

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news is controlled by the rapid support

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news is controlled by the rapid support

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forces what's your reaction to

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forces what's your reaction to

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that I mean yes you know unfortunately

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that I mean yes you know unfortunately

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so in the period after 20 2019 there was

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so in the period after 20 2019 there was

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a lot of um websites that were that were

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a lot of um websites that were that were

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that started they were registered

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that started they were registered

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outside Sudan and they were showing a

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outside Sudan and they were showing a

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lot of this information some of them

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lot of this information some of them

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were even like connected to Vagner and

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were even like connected to Vagner and

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so on so and this information is is

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so on so and this information is is

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different from misinformation

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different from misinformation

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misinformation is just like fake news

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misinformation is just like fake news

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but this information is when the news

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but this information is when the news

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are manipulated for political purposes

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are manipulated for political purposes

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so yes so so they have a lot of un

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so yes so so they have a lot of un

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newused infrastructure before the war

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newused infrastructure before the war

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and they also buy a lot of accounts and

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and they also buy a lot of accounts and

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on on you know Twitter accounts Facebook

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on on you know Twitter accounts Facebook

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accounts and they have been buying a lot

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accounts and they have been buying a lot

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of pages that have large numbers of

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of pages that have large numbers of

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followers so the rsf has a lot of

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followers so the rsf has a lot of

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presence uh definitely online a very

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presence uh definitely online a very

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strong presence um but I also think

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strong presence um but I also think

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there's so many other reasons that that

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there's so many other reasons that that

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the war is not covered as much one of

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the war is not covered as much one of

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them is is the fact that um there other

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them is is the fact that um there other

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conflicts you know they sometimes they

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conflicts you know they sometimes they

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they they just get more coverage and

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they they just get more coverage and

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also the fact that um there's a lot of

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also the fact that um there's a lot of

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politics involved in the in the the

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politics involved in the in the the

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world of news and news Outlet so it's

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world of news and news Outlet so it's

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definitely affected basically that Sudan

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definitely affected basically that Sudan

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sometimes gets deprioritized as a result

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sometimes gets deprioritized as a result

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um a lot of uh you know uh agencies also

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um a lot of uh you know uh agencies also

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don't invest money to like you know send

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don't invest money to like you know send

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reporters to Sudan and so on especially

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reporters to Sudan and so on especially

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that the situation is um you know is

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that the situation is um you know is

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unknown and especially that um there's a

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unknown and especially that um there's a

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lot of uh a lot of telecommunications

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lot of uh a lot of telecommunications

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blackouts that are happening and and the

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blackouts that are happening and and the

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telecommunication blackouts are

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telecommunication blackouts are

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affecting the the journalist in the

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affecting the the journalist in the

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country so they are unable to cover the

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country so they are unable to cover the

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the news as they as they would the

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the news as they as they would the

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international and the local journalists

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international and the local journalists

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who have been un who have been really

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who have been un who have been really

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struggling to cover the news because of

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struggling to cover the news because of

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the Telecommunications blackout and it's

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the Telecommunications blackout and it's

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also affecting citizen journalists who

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also affecting citizen journalists who

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are a very important voice in sharing

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are a very important voice in sharing

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the everyday concerns and the everyday

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the everyday concerns and the everyday

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struggles in getting their voices out

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struggles in getting their voices out

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because sometimes the internet is down

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because sometimes the internet is down

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for days and sometimes the electricity

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for days and sometimes the electricity

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is is out for days so people can don't

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is is out for days so people can don't

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find ways to connect so unfortunately

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find ways to connect so unfortunately

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it's um it's a it's an issue of

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it's um it's a it's an issue of

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infrastructure it's an issue of conflict

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infrastructure it's an issue of conflict

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and it's also an issue of just politics

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and it's also an issue of just politics

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and like I said also an issue that the

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and like I said also an issue that the

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rsf has invested heavily in building and

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rsf has invested heavily in building and

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and use infrastructure before the war so

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and use infrastructure before the war so

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that they could manipulate the narrative

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that they could manipulate the narrative

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and spread a lot of

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and spread a lot of

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propaganda thank you re so the next

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propaganda thank you re so the next

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question I would like you all to

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question I would like you all to

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actually take a stab at answering um

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actually take a stab at answering um

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because it's basically a policy

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because it's basically a policy

recommendation

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recommendation

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recommendation

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um our question come from Ambassador

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um our question come from Ambassador

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Anna BL Maser uh who's the special Envoy

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Anna BL Maser uh who's the special Envoy

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for Sudan uh for Sweden um Anna's asking

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for Sudan uh for Sweden um Anna's asking

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uh is saying thank you all very

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uh is saying thank you all very

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interesting how do you think sanctions

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interesting how do you think sanctions

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could help or

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could help or

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not I can go first if you want yeah uh

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not I can go first if you want yeah uh

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and I I think sanctions can be very

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and I I think sanctions can be very

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effective tools however pursuing

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effective tools however pursuing

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sanctions on their own without a comp

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sanctions on their own without a comp

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comprehensive uh po strategy uh is is

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comprehensive uh po strategy uh is is

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problematic uh I think uh there is

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problematic uh I think uh there is

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evidence that sanctions that have been

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evidence that sanctions that have been

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used so far had some influence for

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used so far had some influence for

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instance there are a lot of reports of

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instance there are a lot of reports of

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how sanctions on the brother of the rsf

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how sanctions on the brother of the rsf

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leader Us San particularly has kind of

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leader Us San particularly has kind of

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uh you know pushed him to engage more

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uh you know pushed him to engage more

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with the US and try to get his name off

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with the US and try to get his name off

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the list uh so yeah sanctions can work

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the list uh so yeah sanctions can work

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however when that you know you have that

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however when that you know you have that

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influence and so on but it's not

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influence and so on but it's not

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leveraged into a peace process for

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leveraged into a peace process for

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instance and it's not being used as a

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instance and it's not being used as a

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full strategy and so on it gets you know

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full strategy and so on it gets you know

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wasted and it becomes uh just in vain

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wasted and it becomes uh just in vain

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also sanctions placed in you know only

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also sanctions placed in you know only

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sanctioning the Sudanese actors uh who

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sanctioning the Sudanese actors uh who

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are fuel who are leading on the war and

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are fuel who are leading on the war and

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so on without um putting serious

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so on without um putting serious

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measures and sanctions on on on their

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measures and sanctions on on on their

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inter Regional and international backers

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inter Regional and international backers

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is also quite problematic because if you

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is also quite problematic because if you

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sanction all leaders in sud all of the

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sanction all leaders in sud all of the

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you know Generals in Sudan but they're

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you know Generals in Sudan but they're

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still being supported from outside uh

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still being supported from outside uh

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and no one is holding the international

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and no one is holding the international

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backers to account uh we are not going

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backers to account uh we are not going

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to get

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to get

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anywhere thank

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anywhere thank

you

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you

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you

sorry

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sorry

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sorry

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are yeah sanctions are very important I

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are yeah sanctions are very important I

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think it's also about sometimes you

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think it's also about sometimes you

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cannot use the same sanctions on

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cannot use the same sanctions on

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different people so yesterday for

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different people so yesterday for

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example we saw us sanctions on two

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example we saw us sanctions on two

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individuals from the rsf but they're

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individuals from the rsf but they're

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likely never going to go to the US start

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likely never going to go to the US start

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bank accounts there and so on one of

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bank accounts there and so on one of

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them probably have not heard of the US

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them probably have not heard of the US

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you know the a very low-level kind of

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you know the a very low-level kind of

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field you know general or sorry field

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field you know general or sorry field

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leader so I think I think you you canot

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leader so I think I think you you canot

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use the same you know method for

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use the same you know method for

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different uh you know so definitely on

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different uh you know so definitely on

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the Deo brothers or on the um on the

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the Deo brothers or on the um on the

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generals who have a business interests

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generals who have a business interests

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you know it is very important to

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you know it is very important to

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sanction them but like hammed said it's

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sanction them but like hammed said it's

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it's part of it's part of a of a

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it's part of it's part of a of a

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mechanism right so you're sanctioning

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mechanism right so you're sanctioning

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them so that they can go to the uh to

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them so that they can go to the uh to

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the to the to the table to sit down and

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the to the to the table to sit down and

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negotiate so if you do sanction them and

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negotiate so if you do sanction them and

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this does not happen then I think we

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this does not happen then I think we

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need other mechanisms you know we need

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need other mechanisms you know we need

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um other mechanisms we have to talk

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um other mechanisms we have to talk

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about Justice we have to talk about

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about Justice we have to talk about

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immunity we have to talk about other

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immunity we have to talk about other

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things that maybe care about more uh so

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things that maybe care about more uh so

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I think it's definitely important to

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I think it's definitely important to

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just um figure out you know how they can

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just um figure out you know how they can

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um uh you know how to really pressure

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um uh you know how to really pressure

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them and find ways to pressure them uh

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them and find ways to pressure them uh

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some people want to be paid off you know

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some people want to be paid off you know

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so so I think we have to think about

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so so I think we have to think about

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what they want really you know um the

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what they want really you know um the

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same method cannot work for everyone um

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same method cannot work for everyone um

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so I think this is important thank

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so I think this is important thank

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you thank you and I would like to add

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you thank you and I would like to add

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you know not all sanctions are created

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you know not all sanctions are created

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equal some well Muhammad if I can if can

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equal some well Muhammad if I can if can

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I add something uh the section I'm agree

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I add something uh the section I'm agree

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with r and hammed but I uh I want to say

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with r and hammed but I uh I want to say

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something here in East African countries

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something here in East African countries

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uh they they denied us from receiving

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uh they they denied us from receiving

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any money and they say there a saction

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any money and they say there a saction

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in Sudan and it's like it's been a

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in Sudan and it's like it's been a

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saction of all sudanes faction should be

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saction of all sudanes faction should be

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more clear it's against the leaders

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more clear it's against the leaders

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against the political people not against

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against the political people not against

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the the against the against sorry sorry

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the the against the against sorry sorry

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against sud theese people because even

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against sud theese people because even

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we cannot receive any aid from outside

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we cannot receive any aid from outside

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and I'm agree with re if you want to put

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and I'm agree with re if you want to put

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section you do it in the key factors

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section you do it in the key factors

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there is a gold faction here there's a

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there is a gold faction here there's a

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lot of things yes why you didn't put

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lot of things yes why you didn't put

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section on

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section on

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that exactly not all sanctions are

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that exactly not all sanctions are

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created equal uh some have immeasurable

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created equal uh some have immeasurable

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unintended the consequences uh as every

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unintended the consequences uh as every

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Sudanese will tell you uh their own

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Sudanese will tell you uh their own

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trauma with sanctions uh we have been

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trauma with sanctions uh we have been

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born under sanctions most of us most

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born under sanctions most of us most

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people alive today in Sudan just think

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people alive today in Sudan just think

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about it have been born while Sudan was

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about it have been born while Sudan was

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comprehensively sanctioned um and yeah

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comprehensively sanctioned um and yeah

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uh it's

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uh it's

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uh a word that you know brings with it a

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uh a word that you know brings with it a

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lot of trauma but we also acknowledge

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lot of trauma but we also acknowledge

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the role of sanctions in you know ending

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the role of sanctions in you know ending

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the atrocities in their for back in you

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the atrocities in their for back in you

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know and or reducing them significantly

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know and or reducing them significantly

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uh we do know they can work but only

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uh we do know they can work but only

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when thoughtfully done and is not just a

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when thoughtfully done and is not just a

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policy a lazy policy but more of a

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policy a lazy policy but more of a

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tactic to get specific results starting

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tactic to get specific results starting

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with s designation of Sudan gold as

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with s designation of Sudan gold as

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blood gold and perhaps invoking strong

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blood gold and perhaps invoking strong

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sanctions like uh Global magnitsky uh

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sanctions like uh Global magnitsky uh

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sanctions against uh States who are

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sanctions against uh States who are

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actively uh uh benefiting from this uh

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actively uh uh benefiting from this uh

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blood uh gold could be a very powerful

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blood uh gold could be a very powerful

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way to uh for the International

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way to uh for the International

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Community to to stop the war um we are

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Community to to stop the war um we are

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at almost at the top of the of the hour

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at almost at the top of the of the hour

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but I would like to give all of you um

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but I would like to give all of you um

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an opportunity to give final words uh we

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an opportunity to give final words uh we

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have a we might be able to go a little

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have a we might be able to go a little

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bit over time uh so I would like in that

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bit over time uh so I would like in that

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case to also so um uh squeeze uh a

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case to also so um uh squeeze uh a

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little bit uh one question that I found

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little bit uh one question that I found

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quite um interesting from LA tongen from

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quite um interesting from LA tongen from

priter<01:26:33.800> college<01:26:34.800> uh<01:26:34.960> United

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priter college uh United

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priter college uh United

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States um is asking two questions one

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States um is asking two questions one

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for Hamid um can you elaborate or

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for Hamid um can you elaborate or

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discern the ideological orientations of

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discern the ideological orientations of

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the two sides because it's unclear a

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the two sides because it's unclear a

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little bit what kind of Sudan they each

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little bit what kind of Sudan they each

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Envision um and two and I will ask the

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Envision um and two and I will ask the

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questions together and it can guide your

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questions together and it can guide your

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closing remarks for all of you uh

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closing remarks for all of you uh

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internal conditions always create

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internal conditions always create

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Pathways for ex external involvement can

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Pathways for ex external involvement can

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you all identify the various groups and

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you all identify the various groups and

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alliances which pursue their various

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alliances which pursue their various

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objectives for example the splm north um

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objectives for example the splm north um

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uh Reviving guars ideas of new Sudan so

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uh Reviving guars ideas of new Sudan so

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you can choose to make that your gu in

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you can choose to make that your gu in

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uh question or not for your closing

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uh question or not for your closing

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remarks but at this point I would like

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remarks but at this point I would like

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to give each of you an opportunity to

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to give each of you an opportunity to

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say last words so let's start with you

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say last words so let's start with you

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ham since you have the first you know qu

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ham since you have the first you know qu

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you have the question directed at

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you have the question directed at

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you sure so in terms of ideology of both

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you sure so in terms of ideology of both

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factions I think re spoke a lot uh about

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factions I think re spoke a lot uh about

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you know the the rsf spikes specifically

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you know the the rsf spikes specifically

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and what kind of you know incentives and

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and what kind of you know incentives and

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ideas they have uh particularly around

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ideas they have uh particularly around

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you know uh that they've been

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you know uh that they've been

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marginalized that the state in the

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marginalized that the state in the

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central state does not represent them

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central state does not represent them

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and so on so this Dynamic about

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and so on so this Dynamic about

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marginalization and and so on although

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marginalization and and so on although

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as said a lot of these people also the

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as said a lot of these people also the

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extended tribes and so on are

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extended tribes and so on are

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historically marginalized and so on but

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historically marginalized and so on but

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I think probably the way this narrative

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I think probably the way this narrative

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is being um you know perpetrated and so

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is being um you know perpetrated and so

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is quite problematic uh and also on the

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is quite problematic uh and also on the

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other side there is the islamists who

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other side there is the islamists who

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are in so many ways having very strong

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are in so many ways having very strong

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influence on the uh Army and every day

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influence on the uh Army and every day

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that influence increases because um as

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that influence increases because um as

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as also mentioned earlier the Army has

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as also mentioned earlier the Army has

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failed to get uh supporters

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failed to get uh supporters

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internationally but also from Key

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internationally but also from Key

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political groups nationalist so getting

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political groups nationalist so getting

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the influence more support from the

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the influence more support from the

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islamist is very important to them but I

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islamist is very important to them but I

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think honestly very on like personally I

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think honestly very on like personally I

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think both leaders uh I don't think they

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think both leaders uh I don't think they

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really care for any ideologies they're

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really care for any ideologies they're

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hungry for power and whatever ideology

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hungry for power and whatever ideology

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works for them to kind of um sustain

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works for them to kind of um sustain

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this for and to advance and so on they

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this for and to advance and so on they

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would use it so that's why I think

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would use it so that's why I think

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they're not very genuine about either of

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they're not very genuine about either of

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these ideologies as you know very

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these ideologies as you know very

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closing and final remarks I think I

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closing and final remarks I think I

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would say I would read

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would say I would read

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reate the point about supporting

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reate the point about supporting

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Grassroots groups and uh empowering them

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Grassroots groups and uh empowering them

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um in the humanitarian response but also

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um in the humanitarian response but also

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in in in political participation in

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in in in political participation in

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peace processes and future uh political

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peace processes and future uh political

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processes and so on but I think also

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processes and so on but I think also

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viewing that the mutual Aid groups and

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viewing that the mutual Aid groups and

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the initiatives that they're leading are

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the initiatives that they're leading are

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not only about the humanitarian um you

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not only about the humanitarian um you

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know uh assistance that they're

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know uh assistance that they're

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providing this Mutual Aid and the way

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providing this Mutual Aid and the way

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it's being practiced in Sudan is an act

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it's being practiced in Sudan is an act

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of politic iCal participation in itself

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of politic iCal participation in itself

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it's an act of resistance in itself uh

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it's an act of resistance in itself uh

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so that is very important to empower so

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so that is very important to empower so

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that the SES people could keep on having

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that the SES people could keep on having

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some ageny in these very difficult times

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some ageny in these very difficult times

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uh I think also it's very important that

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uh I think also it's very important that

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all International

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all International

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actors accelerate their action and act

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actors accelerate their action and act

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very quickly uh you know to protect the

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very quickly uh you know to protect the

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people of Al faser we have there's no

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people of Al faser we have there's no

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time left and the risks are you know are

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time left and the risks are you know are

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are massive it's imminent and a lot

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are massive it's imminent and a lot

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needs to be done before we see you know

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needs to be done before we see you know

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yet another genocide before our eyes the

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yet another genocide before our eyes the

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documentation is there the facts are

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documentation is there the facts are

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there so that we need to see more

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there so that we need to see more

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serious action particularly about

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serious action particularly about

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civilian protection and I think in that

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civilian protection and I think in that

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sense there are two issues that I could

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sense there are two issues that I could

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highlight in terms of taking civilian at

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highlight in terms of taking civilian at

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protection more seriously and holding

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protection more seriously and holding

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the Waring factions to account a

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the Waring factions to account a

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extending the arms embargo across the

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extending the arms embargo across the

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country there's an arms embargo now in

01:30:52.159 --> 01:30:53.629 align:start position:0%

country there's an arms embargo now in

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that for it needs to be extended across

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that for it needs to be extended across

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the country

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the country

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and it needs to be fully implemented

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and it needs to be fully implemented

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because it's not being there are no

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because it's not being there are no

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mechanisms following that up and so on

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mechanisms following that up and so on

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then as also was mentioned earlier that

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then as also was mentioned earlier that

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impunity is at the heart of this war and

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impunity is at the heart of this war and

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uh this war Builds on a history of

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uh this war Builds on a history of

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impunity where Waring uh generals do not

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impunity where Waring uh generals do not

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get hold held to account and so on so

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get hold held to account and so on so

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that is very important uh to take into

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that is very important uh to take into

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account and in that regard I think the

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account and in that regard I think the

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international facts finding mission that

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international facts finding mission that

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was established last year

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was established last year

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is being Ser seriously underfunded

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is being Ser seriously underfunded

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they're not being able to recruit people

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they're not being able to recruit people

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staff they're not being able to

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staff they're not being able to

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establish their offices and so on and I

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establish their offices and so on and I

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think that should be a priority for the

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think that should be a priority for the

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international fact finding mission to be

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international fact finding mission to be

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supported so that we could have the

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supported so that we could have the

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facts and documentations to pursue

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facts and documentations to pursue

Justice<01:31:42.199> and<01:31:42.320> to<01:31:42.440> end<01:31:42.639> the<01:31:42.719> culture<01:31:43.000> of

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Justice and to end the culture of

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Justice and to end the culture of

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immunity thank you so much Hamed and

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immunity thank you so much Hamed and

with<01:31:47.119> that<01:31:47.280> I<01:31:47.360> will<01:31:47.520> turn<01:31:47.760> to<01:31:48.040> we<01:31:48.199> am<01:31:48.639> for<01:31:49.080> final

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with that I will turn to we am for final

01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:54.950 align:start position:0%

with that I will turn to we am for final

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remarks Sudan War it's graphic change

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remarks Sudan War it's graphic change

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01:31:57.790 --> 01:31:57.800 align:start position:0%

and it's war against Sudanese people and

01:31:57.800 --> 01:31:59.790 align:start position:0%

and it's war against Sudanese people and

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01:31:59.790 --> 01:31:59.800 align:start position:0%

my last thing I'm going to say it it's a

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my last thing I'm going to say it it's a

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black War but we will never draw in a

01:32:02.040 --> 01:32:04.629 align:start position:0%

black War but we will never draw in a

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dark and we will never disappear in a in

01:32:04.639 --> 01:32:07.830 align:start position:0%

dark and we will never disappear in a in

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a dark uh and we will continue fighting

01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:10.550 align:start position:0%

a dark uh and we will continue fighting

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for our life and we will continue be

01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:14.270 align:start position:0%

for our life and we will continue be

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01:32:14.270 --> 01:32:14.280 align:start position:0%

loud even if we die from Hungary and

01:32:14.280 --> 01:32:17.950 align:start position:0%

loud even if we die from Hungary and

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just keep eyes in Sudan and we will win

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just keep eyes in Sudan and we will win

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we will get our life

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we will get our life

back<01:32:20.679> thank

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back thank

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back thank

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you thank you we

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you thank you we

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I mean I think this war has really um I

01:32:29.080 --> 01:32:30.830 align:start position:0%

I mean I think this war has really um I

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mean should make people understand that

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mean should make people understand that

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Sudan's problem is not the fact that

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Sudan's problem is not the fact that

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there's a power struggle between the

01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:38.109 align:start position:0%

there's a power struggle between the

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military and politicians it is a crisis

01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:39.950 align:start position:0%

military and politicians it is a crisis

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01:32:39.950 --> 01:32:39.960 align:start position:0%

in the formation of the state itself I

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in the formation of the state itself I

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me we're talking about a country that

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me we're talking about a country that

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has been the first Rebellion began in

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has been the first Rebellion began in

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1955 even before we gained our

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1955 even before we gained our

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independence from the UK or the British

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independence from the UK or the British

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Empire at the time so I think this is a

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Empire at the time so I think this is a

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time for us to really

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time for us to really

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reconsider you know the viability of the

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reconsider you know the viability of the

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Sudanese State and to really reconsider

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Sudanese State and to really reconsider

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the fact that why are there so many

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the fact that why are there so many

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rebellions against the state why are

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rebellions against the state why are

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there so many people you know calling

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there so many people you know calling

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for things such as you know uh

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for things such as you know uh

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abolishing the Arabic language and

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abolishing the Arabic language and

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replacing it with Swahili you know uh

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replacing it with Swahili you know uh

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having a secular State you know um so

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having a secular State you know um so

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many things and and changing the

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many things and and changing the

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identity of the state and so on I think

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identity of the state and so on I think

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we have to talk about it in a as to

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we have to talk about it in a as to

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thees people in a very serious way that

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thees people in a very serious way that

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you know what do people want and will

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you know what do people want and will

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people stop fighting for the control of

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people stop fighting for the control of

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the state and to change the identity of

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the state and to change the identity of

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the state because the because if if this

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the state because the because if if this

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does not uh stop then the war is not

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does not uh stop then the war is not

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going to stop even if the war between

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going to stop even if the war between

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the rsf and the South uh stops because

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the rsf and the South uh stops because

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the community right now is so polarized

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the community right now is so polarized

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is so hurt by this and so traumatized by

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is so hurt by this and so traumatized by

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this war that we have to have a serious

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this war that we have to have a serious

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discussion to really decide how we can

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discussion to really decide how we can

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live together again as like as one

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live together again as like as one

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country thank you thank you so much re

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country thank you thank you so much re

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and thank you to all our speakers uh for

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and thank you to all our speakers uh for

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being here and all our attendees and I'm

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being here and all our attendees and I'm

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sorry I couldn't get to all your

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sorry I couldn't get to all your

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questions um um and but thank you for uh

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questions um um and but thank you for uh

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showing up and uh reminding us that we

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showing up and uh reminding us that we

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are not alone uh even if International

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are not alone uh even if International

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political will and media uh May imply

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political will and media uh May imply

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that Sudan is completely forgotten uh

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that Sudan is completely forgotten uh

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with with that I will turn to um uh the

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with with that I will turn to um uh the

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CED team uh specifically to salami for

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CED team uh specifically to salami for

closing

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01:34:33.320 --> 01:34:37.149 align:start position:0%

remarks<01:34:34.320> thank<01:34:34.600> you<01:34:35.239> thank<01:34:35.400> you<01:34:35.960> Muhammad<01:34:36.960> we

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remarks thank you thank you Muhammad we

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remarks thank you thank you Muhammad we

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am re and hammed for helping our

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am re and hammed for helping our

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audience understand what's going on in

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audience understand what's going on in

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Sudan today and we hope this discussion

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Sudan today and we hope this discussion

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helps to activate more people around the

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helps to activate more people around the

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world um thank you to our team today who

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world um thank you to our team today who

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helped pull off the webinar Professor

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helped pull off the webinar Professor

zipperstein<01:34:56.280> Laura<01:34:56.679> Lee<01:34:57.400> and<01:34:57.600> Emily<01:34:58.360> pistoi

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zipperstein Laura Lee and Emily pistoi

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zipperstein Laura Lee and Emily pistoi

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and least last but not least thank you

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and least last but not least thank you

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to the audience for joining us I know

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to the audience for joining us I know

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it's very late in the day for some of

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it's very late in the day for some of

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you around the world we hope you will

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you around the world we hope you will

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join us again for our next webinar which

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join us again for our next webinar which

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is happening on June 5th there is

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is happening on June 5th there is

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information on the screen for you um we

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information on the screen for you um we

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are in the early stages of planning um

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are in the early stages of planning um

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Israel and Palestine what's happening

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Israel and Palestine what's happening

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next where we headed so if you scan this

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next where we headed so if you scan this

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